[Vm-dev] Re: Mac + Cog - mouse clicks

[Andreas Raab]

On 12/23/2010 7:11 PM, John M McIntosh wrote:
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> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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> So it has come to pass. Steve Jobs, the polo-necked Apple chief, described this week by US president Barack Obama as the “epitome of the American dream”, is the Financial Times’ Person of the Year.
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> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a420b564-0eef-11e0-9ec3-00144feabdc0.html
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> {I would not be surprised if you can view that, it's all about $$$}
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> And you too can pay the fee...
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> Seriously tho I think the industry is moving towards signing binaries.

That seems pretty obvious and is admittedly a Very Good Idea. I don't 
think it would be a problem for us (i.e., squeak.org) to get a 
certificate and sign all "official" VMs. In fact, I'd be all in favor of 
that; it illustrates that you're getting the "approved" versions from 
your favorite vendor :-)

Cheers,
   - Andreas

> A little known fact is that I PGP signed binaries for years now, look for the Squeak VM Opt.sig which is a PGP signature for the binary, people are welcome to confirm the binary they have is actually signed by me...  I've viewed that as a security measure.  Never signed plugins, just too much hassle.
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> On 2010-12-23, at 7:01 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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>> On 24 December 2010 03:55, John M McIntosh
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>>> Well the community needs to start thinking about the cost associated with supporting the VM building.
>>> Not only will in the future you need a $99 license to sign os-x VMs, the intel compiler just produces better code.
>>> This might change over time with LLVM, but right now the LLVM compile won't create a VM. This perhaps is a step UP from
>>> the past where LLVM would produce a VM that crashes, or is it?
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>>> But the entry cost of reporting a bug is the $99 license.  Oh well MAYBE one can do it for free, but good luck with that...
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>> yeah and this feels a bit alienating..
>> "For privilege to work with us, and develop under our superb system,
>> you must pay the ransom".. Something wrong with these guys..
>> but enough of that.
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>>> On 2010-12-23, at 6:51 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
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>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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