[Vm-dev] COG, Trunk, and squeak.org

Frank Shearar frank.shearar at angband.za.org
Fri Jun 25 10:41:22 UTC 2010


On 2010/06/25 10:29, Squeak List wrote:
>
> First, MANY thanks to everyone for bringing Cog to Squeak :)
>
> yet, i go to:
> "og, a Squeak JIT VM with 2x-10x Speedup Released
> Eliot Miranda announced that Teleplace released under a MIT license his work on a long awaited and anticipated new JIT virtual engine for Squeak and friends called Cog, with 2x-10x improvement in performance.  It is available on our ftp site."
>
> and find no way to get Cog working at all with Trunk... it seems like update options were released some time ago for 4.1, when folks were having similar problems - but i cannot get cog to accept any update preferences...
>
> what happened to the COMPLETELY PRE-BUILT releases????
>
> i think this is what confuses/infuriates some folks: expectation is to click a link and download the COMPLETE latest and greatest: here you have cog and functioning options INCLUDED in what you download from squeak.org, that allow you to choose from whatever update stream you choose... at least Trunk...
>
> windows vista 32 bit here.
>
> i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the preferences... and i am amazed that i should have to look ANYWHERE beyond SQUEAK.ORG to waste time... the program works (except the updating via TRUNK) - did i miss the message that explains how to fix this (possibly/probably) - and if/since i did miss that clearly spelled out message, why on earth is it not spelled out clearly on squeak.org??? or did i miss it there also?
>
> otherwise, it all is very interesting :)
>
> and it seems that is working very well (cog) for some folks.
>
> i would just like to ask someone to CLEARLY EXPLAIN how to get the new Cog system working in Windows: so that i can use Trunk updates.
>
> sorry, but it just seems like when i download the Cog from squeak.org, it should not have problems connecting to Trunk... and that updating from Trunk should be a built in option in preferences... to me at least... something that you could turn off if you were not interested....

Eliot did say that while Cog worked nicely at Teleplace there might be 
all sorts of breakages when Cog had images "from the wild" thrown at it. 
This is entirely normal: you write something, it works for you, and 
other people (who don't work with your set of assumptions) find all 
manner of things wrong with it.

It's in beta, so I for one don't expect a seamless install procedure.

frank


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