[Vm-dev] positive32BitValueOf: fail with LargePositiveInteger

Mariano Martinez Peck marianopeck at gmail.com
Mon Oct 11 20:50:18 UTC 2010

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>wrote:

> On 10.10.2010, at 13:05, stephane ducasse wrote:
> > Yes I saw and I appreciated. Now my point is that some assumptions (like
> that mariano did not read books
> > are bad). Now mariano told me that he will check more. And this is bad
> because mariano is helping a lot
> > people so we all lost something.
> >
> > Stef
> I don't see how "we all lost something", we gained something instead.
> Knowing which question is basic and which is advanced is not easy. How
> SmallIntegers are represented in the Squeak VM is something very basic, so
> it was appropriate to mention that.

Yes, I agree. That's very basic. It was confusing for just realising that
there is a range (those 2 bits) of difference where I can have
LargePositiveInteger that fits in 32 bits. That was all.

> And as Nicolas pointed out, not a single answer was "RTFM", nobody called
> anyone an idiot. There were 3 different actual explanations. No reason you
> get all upset about it. Relax, all is fine :)
No problem. Fine with you and I appreaciate the help.



> That is, unless there is a hidden problem you did not mention. But in that
> case it would be better to name it.
> - Bert -
> >>> Why do you all think that mariano is not trying to learn?
> >>> He is! He read all the chapters available and books on the topics.
> >>> Now may be tell him simply that he is an idiot.
> >>> This would be more efficient. But Mariano is a really smart guy so may
> be
> >>> we can also tell him to do ruby or python and we can stay in our nice
> little
> >>> club or we can consider that learning alone is difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Stef
> >>>
> >>
> >> Apologize to Mariano,
> >> Sure we got a little upset by the gap between the level of the
> >> question and the hard task of modifying the VM.
> >> But stephane is right, we all have the right to be idiot, and most of
> >> us are, sometimes (I recently asked a very stupid question about
> >> Heap).
> >> The spirit behind Smalltalk is not to build walls around complex
> >> things, and reserve the knowledge to a happy few cast, and ideally
> >> this should apply to the VM too (otherwise, no use to specify it in
> >> pseudo Smalltalk code).
> >>
> >> But Steph, you must see the good side of this community: despite the
> >> tone of the answers, Mariano got 3 responses driving him to the
> >> answer.
> >> In other languages I bet this would have been just RTFM.
> >>
> >> Nicolas
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