[Vm-dev] [Pharo-project] Plan/discussion/communication around new object format

David T. Lewis lewis at mail.msen.com
Fri Jun 15 04:54:02 UTC 2012

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 09:38:42PM -0400, Chris Cunnington wrote:
> "Any interest?"
> As ever, David, you are a person to say judicious, reasonable things. And what you propose is reasonable, but - alas - it will never happen. 

Why would it not happen? All that I suggested was to ask interested people
to help with a topic that is clearly of interest to all of us. Eliot has
asked for input and discussion, so why not focus on providing some useful

> I think you're trying to resolve and defuse conflict here, as you usually do. And that is praiseworthy, but it is turning away from the
> politics of this situation. 

I am quite comfortable dealing with politics and conflict, but I don't see
that as relevant here.

> The players, the ones with actual power, have already decided on an immutability bit. This discussion of today is sort of a sideshow.
> Owing to Andreas's high level of knowledge, it appears, by reading this mailing list, that the decision has something to do with him.

What "players"? What "power"? It's just a few motivated folks with strong
personalities and lots of talent. Give 'em a break ;-)


p.s. If decisions were being made by people with a "high level of knowledge",
I'm not sure that it would be an entirely bad thing. As opposed to decisions
being made by people with a "high level of opinion" for example. Hence my
interest in measurable results, which requires real work by people with
enough interest and motivation to do the experiments and report the results.
I hope there will be a few people with that level of motivation.

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