[Vm-dev] StackVM with latest sources tinyBenchmarks

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 04:09:18 UTC 2013


On 20 February 2013 18:29, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2013-02-20, at 01:25, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The most annoying piece is Time machine and its disk access, I
>>>>>> sometimes forget to suspend it, but it was off during the
>>>>>> tinyBenchmark.
>>>>>
>>>>> One simple approach is to run the benchmark three times and to discard
>>>>> the best and the worst results.
>>>>
>>>> that is as good as taking the first one... if you want decent results
>>>> measure >30 times and do the only scientific correct thing: avg + std deviation?
>>>
>>> If the benchmark takes very little time to run and you're trying to
>>> avoid background effects then your approach won't necessarily work
>>> either.
>>
>> true, but the deviation will most probably give you exactly that feedback.
>> if you increase the runs but the quality of the result doesn't improve
>> you know that you're dealing with some systematic error source.
>>
>> This approach is simply more scientific and less home-brewed.
>
> Of course, no argument here.  But what's being discussed is using
> tinyBenchmarks as a quick smoke test.  A proper CI system can be set
> it up for reliable results, but for IMO for a quick smoke test doing
> three runs manually is fine.  IME, what tends to happen is that the
> first run is slow (caches heating up etc) and the second two runs are
> extremely close.

but not in case when you have an order(s) of magnitude speed
degradation. This is too significant to be
considered as measurement error or deviation.
There should be something wrong with VM (cache always fails?).

> --
> best,
> Eliot



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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.


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