[Vm-dev] Re: [Pharo-dev] Run Spur run!!

[Eliot Miranda]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:

>
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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>> On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo at free.fr> wrote:
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>>>> Yes, I'm very excited.  It's so great to have strong collaborators like
>>>> Clément, Ronie, Doug and Tim.  But there's lots of room for more to join
>>>> us.  For a really cool project how about grabbing Bert Freudenberg's
>>>> VMMakerJS Squeak-vm-on-JavaScript, extract the event handling and rendering
>>>> part and connect it to the Cog VM via sockets to give us a really fast web
>>>> plugin?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought that the event handling was what JB is doing with the idle
>>> process on android.
>>>
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>> These are two different, but closely related things.  The event-driven VM
>> and idle process work gives us better event handling (no event queue,
>> important for better integration with GUIs) and a cheaper VM at idle (the
>> CM blocks awaiting an event instead of spinning calling a shirt delay).
>>
>
> Just a friendly reminder before someone starts to reinvent the wheel: the
> event-driven VM already exists.
>
> Proposal: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-
> November/003385.html
> Announcement: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-
> January/003684.html
> Repo: https://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/
> StackVM variant with other improvments: https://code.google.com/p/
> squeakvm-tablet/


It still needs integrating.  AFAIA JB's version for Android is the most
up-to-date version.


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> Levente
>
>
>> To embed the system in a web browser one needs both to render to the
>> browser window and to receive mouse and keyboard events from the window.
>>
>> So the "plugin" must be connected to the VM's event subsystem e.g. by a
>> socket.  Just as the VM's graphics subsystem must output to the browser
>> window.  There are lots of ways to slice this and it will likely be
>> different for BitBlt and Athens.
>>
>> Eliot (phone)
>>
>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> best,
>>>> Eliot
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


-- 
best,
Eliot
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