[Vm-dev] [squeak-dev] [Pharo-dev] Byte & String collection hash performance; a modest proposal for change.
Levente Uzonyi
leves at caesar.elte.hu
Tue May 2 10:14:12 UTC 2017
On Mon, 1 May 2017, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:11 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 07:26:35PM +0200, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> > I presume that a general purpose in-image solution would be more complex.
> > String already has too many subclasses (6 in Squeak), while at the same
> > time other kind of new subclasses would be welcome too, e.g. Strings with
> > 2-byte characters.
> > Since these properties are orthogonal, there would be many new subclasses
> > to cover all cases.
> > Storing the size of the string in a different header word is a VM specific
> > detail, so I think caching the hash could also be hidden from the image.
> >
> > Levente
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> Actually, I meant something more like this:
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> Object subclass: #LargeString
> instanceVariableNames: 'anyKindOfString cachedHashValueForTheString'
> classVariableNames: ''
> poolDictionaries: ''
> category: 'Probably a Bad Idea'
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> I was guessing that hashing very large strings would imply a somewhat
> specialized problem domain, for which a wrapper class might make sense.
> Certainly it would not be a general solution.
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> But this implies changing very many places in the VM that access a string as a vector of bytes. That's why Levente suggests hiding the hash in unused memory in Spur. It doesn't have the side effect of requiring a major rewrite.
I guess Dave didn't mean the VM to treat LargeString as other Strings.
Levente
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> I am probably over my quota of bad ideas for today, so I'll stop now ;-)
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> Dave
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> >
> > On Mon, 1 May 2017, David T. Lewis wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Does it need to be done in the VM? Why not make a class LargeString with
> > >instance variables aString and myCalculatedHashValueForTheString. That way
> > >you can cache the hash value and calculate it any way you want.
> > >
> > >I know vey little about hashing, just wondering if this kind of thing can
> > >be handled more easily in the image.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>On Mon, 1 May 2017, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Well, I had started to write a reply, but I had to postpone it.
> > >>>I mostly agree with your suggestions.
> > >>>
> > >>>One thing that can be done about large strings is to cache the
> > >>>calculated
> > >>>hash value in the larger strings. Currently the object representation
> > >>>changes when the string contains 255 or more characters. In that case an
> > >>>additional 64 bit field is added to the object header to store its
> > >>>length.
> > >>>If we were to use the upper 28+1 bits of that field to cache the hash,
> > >>>there would still be 35-bits to encode length, which would be enough to
> > >>>represent strings up to 8 GiB.
> > >>
> > >>Well, we can keep the whole range minus one bit, but then we can't store
> > >>the hash for strings larger than 8 GiB.
> > >>
> > >>Levente
> > >>
> > >>>But this would require further VM changes (e.g. at:put: would have to
> > >>>flush the cache).
> > >>>
> > >>>Levente
> > >>>
> > >>>On Mon, 1 May 2017, Martin McClure wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>I see no replies to this on any of the three lists it was sent to, so I
> > >>>>guess I'll chime in.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>tl;dr:
> > >>>>Making a primitive for #hashMultiply, probably a good idea, in some
> > >>>>form, since doing it in Smalltalk is awkward.
> > >>>>Only hashing every N-th character of large strings, probably a very bad
> > >>>>idea. Performance might well get worse, the complexity does not seem
> > >>>>justified, and it would open a sizeable security hole.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>More verbiage below for those interested.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Regards,
> > >>>>-Martin
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On 04/18/2017 07:09 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> > >>>>>Hi All,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> the hash algorithm used for ByteString in Squeak and Pharo is good
> > >>>>>for "small" strings and overkill for large strings.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Why do you say it's overkill for large strings? Are there applications
> > >>>>with large strings that are being negatively impacted by the current
> > >>>>algorithm? Which ones, and impacted how?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>It is important in many applications to get well distributed string
> > >>>>>hashes, especially over the range of strings that constitute things
> > >>>>>like method names, URLs, etc. Consequently, the current algorithm
> > >>>>>includes every character in a string. This works very well for
> > >>>>>"small" strings and results in very slow hashes (and hence long
> > >>>>>latencies, because the hash is an uninterruptible primitive) for large
> > >>>>>strings, where large may be several megabytes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>A simple solution for the uninterruptable primitive is to not make it a
> > >>>>primitive. Make #hashMultiply a primitive (since this particular kind
> > >>>>of
> > >>>>numeric modulo computation is really painful in Smalltalk), and do the
> > >>>>rest in a loop in Smalltalk. It sounds like you've done the
> > >>>>#hashMultiply primitive already.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If the overhead of calling a primitive for each character proves to be
> > >>>>too much, even with the faster primitive calling methodologies you
> > >>>>talked about in the "Cog Primitive Performance" thread on the Vm-dev
> > >>>>list, a more complex primitive could take a range of bytes, so large
> > >>>>strings would be done in batches, solving the latency problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Let's look at the basic hash algorithm.
> > >>>>[...]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>In looking at this I've added a primitive for hashMultiply; primitive
> > >>>>>#159 implements precisely self * 1664525 bitAnd: 16r0FFFFFFF for
> > >>>>>SmallInteger and LargePositiveInteger receivers, as fast as possible
> > >>>>>in the Cog JIT. With this machinery in place it's instructive to
> > >>>>>compare the cost of the primitive against the non-primitive Smalltalk
> > >>>>>code.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>First let me introduce a set of replacement hash functions, newHashN.
> > >>>>>These hash all characters in strings up to a certain size, and then no
> > >>>>>more than that number for larger strings. Here are newHash64 and
> > >>>>>newHash2048, which use pure Smalltalk, including an inlined
> > >>>>>hashMultiply written to avoid SmallInteger overflow. Also measured
> > >>>>>are the obvious variants newHash128, newHash256, newHash512 &
> > >>>>>mewHash1024.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>[...]
> > >>>>>So the idea here is to step through the string by 1 for strings sizes
> > >>>>>up to N - 1, and by greater than 1 for strings of size >= N, limiting
> > >>>>>the maximum number of characters sampled to between N // 2 and N - 1.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>The history of computing is littered with the bones of those who have
> > >>>>tried this kind of thing. It doesn't end well. Yes, you get a faster
> > >>>>hash function. And then you find, for sets of data that you or your
> > >>>>users actually want to use, that you get collisions like crazy, and
> > >>>>much
> > >>>>worse overall performance than you started with.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Sure, it works OK for the sets of data that the designer *tested*, and
> > >>>>probably for the sets of data that they *anticipated*. But real-world
> > >>>>data is tricky. It includes data sets where the characters that differ
> > >>>>are the ones that the hash thinks are unimportant, and there goes your
> > >>>>performance, by orders of magnitude. For instance, early versions of
> > >>>>Java used a limited number of characters to hash strings. One of the
> > >>>>biggest compatibility-breaking changes they were forced to make in
> > >>>>later
> > >>>>Java versions was to consider *all* characters in hashing. It turned
> > >>>>out
> > >>>>that it was very common to hash URLs, and many distinct URLs had most
> > >>>>of
> > >>>>their characters in common.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>And you don't always get to choose your data -- sometimes you have an
> > >>>>opponent who is actively looking to create collisions as a
> > >>>>denial-of-service attack. There was a fair-sized kerfluffle about this
> > >>>>a
> > >>>>few years ago -- most web scripting languages made it too easy to mount
> > >>>>this kind of attack.
> > >>>>
> > >>>https://arstechnica.com/business/2011/12/huge-portions-of-web-vulnerable-to-hashing-denial-of-service-attack/
> > >>>>"...an attacker can degenerate the hash table by sending lots of
> > >>>>colliding keys. ...making it possible to exhaust hours of CPU time
> > >>>>using
> > >>>>a single HTTP request."
> > >>>>To guard against this kind of attack you need a randomized element in
> > >>>>your hash (not a bad idea for Smalltalk, actually, and pretty easy --
> > >>>>mixing in the identity hash of the collection might be sufficient) or a
> > >>>>cryptographic hash (not worth the computational expense for most
> > >>>>purposes). However, even adding a randomized element would not prevent
> > >>>>this kind of attack if you predictably completely ignore some
> > >>>>characters
> > >>>>of the input string. That just makes it *so* easy to generate data that
> > >>>>validates, and is not equal, but causes collisions.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So really, for general-purpose use (i.e. what's built into the
> > >>>>language)
> > >>>>hash *every* character of *all* strings. If someone finds that this is
> > >>>>a
> > >>>>performance problem in a real-world situation, it can be addressed in
> > >>>>an
> > >>>>application-specific way.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
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> --
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
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