[Vm-dev] VM build questions from last board meeting

David T. Lewis lewis at mail.msen.com
Tue Mar 27 21:15:16 UTC 2018


Eliot,

See my response to this post earlier this morning. I put a moderator hold
on Jan's account, so he will not be able to immediately reply. I will
check the backlog of his held messages when I get home in a couple of
hours and release them if appropriate.

I would be happy to see this thread return to its intended subject, see
Tim's original questions below.

Dave


>  Hi Jan,
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:13 AM, Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> You fucket it up all Miranda and banda ... old snail squeak was best.
>> //
>> Good Bye
>>
>
> I wonder what specifically is "fucked up".  I think everybody contributing
> here wants things not to be "fucked up", and pitching in and helping is
> more constructive than flinging mud, and more likely to produce results.
> Jan, can you list some specific issues you'd like to see addressed
> (technical or social)?
>
>
>>
>> 2018-03-23 1:59 GMT+01:00 tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org>:
>>
>>>
>>> Ping. We could do with some info on these questions...
>>>
>>> > On 08-03-2018, at 3:14 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > At the last SOB meeting we had a couple of minutes discussion
>>> relating
>>> to some recent VM issues; this is just to wave the flag and remind us
>>> that
>>> they are out there and could do with answering by anyone that Knows The
>>> Truth.
>>> >
>>> > a) Squeak3D plugin is only built on ARM config. Simple oversight in
>>> config files?
>>> > b) B3DAcceleratorPlugin on Pi; it needs assorted gl.h files and there
>>> is no easy to spot doc of what packages have been installed on the
>>> autobuild Pi that provide them. In general that lead us to wonder if we
>>> can
>>> get some better documentation about the whole build/test/bintray setup
>>> on
>>> squeak.org so that we spread the knowledge a bit better.
>>> > c) Also Pi related - the Pi vms appear to be itimer versions, which
>>> appear to give somewhat variable performance. I have no problems
>>> building
>>> thread timer vms, which seem much more consistent. Why is the thread
>>> version a problem in the autobuilder world? Or is it a simple
>>> oversight?
>>> And why is the package naming of the form
>>> squeak.cog.spur_linux32ARMv6_itimer_201803052012.tar.gz
>>> but the VM directory still named as sqcogspurlinuxhtRPi and thus
>>> looking
>>> like the threaded timer?
>>> >
>>> > tim
>>> > --
>>> > tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>> > BASIC is to computer programming as QWERTY is to typing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> tim
>>> --
>>> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>> 29A, the hexadecimal of the Beast.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ing. Jan Barger
>>
>> www.barnet.sk
>> www.napri.sk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
>




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