[Vm-dev] [Pharo-dev] Some segfault crashes and freezes when trying to re-run saved pharo 7 images

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Wed Mar 28 21:54:19 UTC 2018


Hi Holger,

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Holger Freyther <holger at freyther.de> wrote:

>
>
> > On 26. Mar 2018, at 00:00, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Holger,
>
> Hey!
>
>
> > Is the intent of CCallOut with: aBlock to collect and defer
> deallocations until the block completes?  I think it's nice but complex and
> wonder how general it is.  But it seems like it would impact a lot of code
> and require a lot of effort changing existing code bases.  My handle scheme
> is only intended to fix the issue of images crashing on startup. The
> problems with crashing on startup being a) one loses one's work and b) the
> issue is hard to debug.  That, for me, motivates something like the simple
> fix I p[roposed.  I'm not standing in the way of something more beautiful,
> but I do believe that one shouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
>
> By all means, let's have a smart pointer! It will be beneficial for
> freetype and many other places. Nobody likes crashing images (for a mistake
> made in a previous run).
>
>
> My intent with the CCallOut is inhibit image saving until the code is
> outside a sequence of (interruptible, hence the backward jump int the
> example) C calls working with one or more pieces of manually managed
> memory. But maybe it is best to call it by what it does instead of finding
> a name of where it is used.
>
> I can't come up with a better example right now. But I think a
> Smartpointer wouldn't be of much help with a sequence of strtok calls.
>
>         word := CStringAPI strtok: cStringPtr safeBytes separator: '\r'.
>         [word isNil] whileFalse: [
>                 word = 'Foo'...
>                 word = 'Bla'...
>                 word := CStringAPI strtok: nil separator: '\r'
>  ------------- Image Save happening right here and word is not nil -----
>         ].
>
> I hope this is more clear.
>

Right.  So the VM could have a flag that, when set, causes the snapshot
primitive to fail, and that flag would be cleared only when all FFI cals
had unwound.  Would that be enough?  What would you have the image do if
snapshot fails because FFI calls are in progress?


> holger
>

_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot
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