[Vm-dev] Blocking inappropriate posts to vm-dev (was: VM build questions from last board meeting)

Jan Barger barniisk at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 06:12:46 UTC 2018


Giga scale, giga hertz, washed SoCs

2018-03-30 7:17 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:

> GAME OVER :)
>
> One pair of my smelly socs ws  giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs
>
> 2018-03-30 5:26 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>> Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the
>>> conversion to 64-bits,
>>>
>>
>> What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:
>>
>> fast     ( cogblog )
>> double its speed      ( VW )
>> chip design support  ( hic current company )
>>
>> But, where are the nice and beutiful high ideas like these from Allan Kay
>> and others?
>> Where are final simlicity and usability?
>>
>> Sorry this Eliot thinking and programming style ( assembler like thinking
>> and supit overoptimizations ) is leading to some kind of all asociated
>> programmers hell ...
>> COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems
>> nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
>>
>> which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating
>>> systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications.  A lot of the
>>> complexity is probably in the Cog-JIT, so perhaps StackInterpreter build of
>>> the VM would provide the balance of stability and speed you desire (@All,
>>> how would you rate that option?)
>>>
>>
>> Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.
>>
>>
>>> btw, again I ask...
>>> 1. Which OS version were you running Pharo on?
>>>
>>
>> Pharo 6.1 on Debian Linux
>>
>>
>>> 2. Were you running 32-bit or 64-bit Pharo?
>>>
>>
>> Both version, old images and vm work OK
>>
>>
>>> 3. Which links did you download Pharo from?  i.e. what is the
>>> version/date of both VM and Image?   Often we can advise that specific
>>> VM/Image has a known bug that has since been fixed.
>>>
>>
>> http://pharo.org/web/download
>>
>>
>> I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo for
>> Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and
>> previous good images and vms.
>>
>>
>> Jan.
>> www.mageo.club
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> --
> Ing. Jan Barger
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> www.barnet.sk
> www.napri.sk
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Ing. Jan Barger

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