[Vm-dev] Blocking inappropriate posts to vm-dev (was: VM build questions from last board meeting)

Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 07:10:57 UTC 2018


This looks more like psychotic symptoms and obsessional/delusional
disorders than constructive and positive attitude.
This is not going anywhere but round in circles.
It's time to administer some remedy.
David, could you switch on the moderate flag ?

2018-03-30 8:14 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:

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> https://www.cadence.com/
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> 2018-03-30 8:12 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
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>> Giga scale, giga hertz, washed SoCs
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>> 2018-03-30 7:17 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
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>>> GAME OVER :)
>>>
>>> One pair of my smelly socs ws  giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs
>>>
>>> 2018-03-30 5:26 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the
>>>>> conversion to 64-bits,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:
>>>>
>>>> fast     ( cogblog )
>>>> double its speed      ( VW )
>>>> chip design support  ( hic current company )
>>>>
>>>> But, where are the nice and beutiful high ideas like these from Allan
>>>> Kay and others?
>>>> Where are final simlicity and usability?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry this Eliot thinking and programming style ( assembler like
>>>> thinking and supit overoptimizations ) is leading to some kind of all
>>>> asociated programmers hell ...
>>>> COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems
>>>> nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
>>>>
>>>> which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating
>>>>> systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications.  A lot of the
>>>>> complexity is probably in the Cog-JIT, so perhaps StackInterpreter build of
>>>>> the VM would provide the balance of stability and speed you desire (@All,
>>>>> how would you rate that option?)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> btw, again I ask...
>>>>> 1. Which OS version were you running Pharo on?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pharo 6.1 on Debian Linux
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Were you running 32-bit or 64-bit Pharo?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both version, old images and vm work OK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 3. Which links did you download Pharo from?  i.e. what is the
>>>>> version/date of both VM and Image?   Often we can advise that specific
>>>>> VM/Image has a known bug that has since been fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://pharo.org/web/download
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo
>>>> for Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and
>>>> previous good images and vms.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan.
>>>> www.mageo.club
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Ing. Jan Barger
>>>
>>> www.barnet.sk
>>> www.napri.sk
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>>>
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>> --
>> Ing. Jan Barger
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>> www.okoun.cz
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> Ing. Jan Barger
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> www.okoun.cz
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