[Vm-dev] Blocking inappropriate posts to vm-dev (was: VM build questions from last board meeting)

henry henry at callistohouse.club
Fri Mar 30 08:47:13 UTC 2018


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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 03:10, Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com> wrote:

> This looks more like psychotic symptoms and obsessional/delusional disorders than constructive and positive attitude.
> This is not going anywhere but round in circles.
> It's time to administer some remedy.
> David, could you switch on the moderate flag ?
>
> 2018-03-30 8:14 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>
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>>
>> https://www.cadence.com/
>>
>> 2018-03-30 8:12 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Giga scale, giga hertz, washed SoCs
>>>
>>> 2018-03-30 7:17 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> GAME OVER :)
>>>>
>>>> One pair of my smelly socs ws  giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs
>>>>
>>>> 2018-03-30 5:26 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>> Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the conversion to 64-bits,
>>>>>
>>>>> What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:
>>>>>
>>>>> fast     ( cogblog )
>>>>> double its speed      ( VW )
>>>>>
>>>>> chip design support  ( hic current company )
>>>>>
>>>>> But, where are the nice and beutiful high ideas like these from Allan Kay and others?
>>>>> Where are final simlicity and usability?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry this Eliot thinking and programming style ( assembler like thinking and supit overoptimizations ) is leading to some kind of all asociated programmers hell ...
>>>>> COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
>>>>>
>>>>>> which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications.  A lot of the complexity is probably in the Cog-JIT, so perhaps StackInterpreter build of the VM would provide the balance of stability and speed you desire (@All, how would you rate that option?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.
>>>>>
>>>>>> btw, again I ask...
>>>>>> 1. Which OS version were you running Pharo on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pharo 6.1 on Debian Linux
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Were you running 32-bit or 64-bit Pharo?
>>>>>
>>>>> Both version, old images and vm work OK
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Which links did you download Pharo from?  i.e. what is the version/date of both VM and Image?   Often we can advise that specific VM/Image has a known bug that has since been fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pharo.org/web/download
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo for Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and previous good images and vms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan.
>>>>> www.mageo.club
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ing. Jan Barger
>>>>
>>>> www.barnet.sk
>>>> www.napri.sk
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ing. Jan Barger
>>>
>>> www.okoun.cz
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ing. Jan Barger
>>
>> www.okoun.cz
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