[Vm-dev] Question | Bump min support from WinXP to Win8

Thu May 14 09:12:20 UTC 2020

> On 14.05.2020, at 10:39, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> wrote:
> 
> Vista was crap. :-)

Then 0x0601 I don't care too much.
I thought we already bumped to Vista some time ago? did I miss something?
-t

> 
> Best,
> Marcel
>> Am 14.05.2020 10:37:19 schrieb Fabio Niephaus <lists at fniephaus.com>:
>> 
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:01 AM Marcel Taeumel 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Hmm... regarding that function, 0x0600 would be enough. Sure. But Vista? 
>> > Seriously? :-D 
>> > 
>> > It's voting time! Here you go: http://www.strawpoll.me/20045290 
>> > 
>> 
>> No need to vote, you gave the best reason to keep 0x0600 in your statement 
>> above. Why drop support if 0x0600 is enough!? 
>> 
>> Fabio 
>> 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Best, 
>> > Marcel 
>> > 
>> > Am 13.05.2020 21:50:49 schrieb Nicolas Cellier <>
>> > nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com>: 
>> > Hi all, 
>> > 
>> > Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman a écrit : 
>> > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin 
>> > > wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > >> 
>> > >> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in 
>> > >> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the 
>> > last 
>> > >> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-) 
>> > >> 
>> > >> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Stef 
>> > >> 
>> > > 
>> > > Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry. 
>> > > 
>> > > The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10. 
>> > > 
>> > > My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became 
>> > > end-of-life at the beginning of this year. 
>> > > I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in 
>> > the 
>> > > wild for a coupe more years. 
>> > > Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows 
>> > > versions, mostly Windows 7. 
>> > > Here it is by portion. 
>> > > [image: image.png] 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/ 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems 
>> > > pointless. 
>> > > Either also keep Win 7 
>> > > or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10. 
>> > > 
>> > > my two cents... 
>> > > cheers -ben 
>> > > 
>> > > like Ben said, thanks for these pointers. 
>> > it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 
>> > 2008) 
>> > So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many 
>> > users still. 
>> > Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602. 
>> > 
>> > Hi all, 
>> > 
>> > Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman a écrit : 
>> > 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin 
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in 
>> >>> 
>> >>> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last 
>> >>> 
>> >>> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-) 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Stef 
>> >>> 
>> >> 
>> >> Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry. 
>> >> 
>> >> The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10. 
>> >> 
>> >> My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became 
>> >> end-of-life at the beginning of this year. 
>> >> I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the 
>> >> wild for a coupe more years. 
>> >> Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows 
>> >> versions, mostly Windows 7. 
>> >> Here it is by portion. 
>> >> [image: image.png] 
>> >> 
>> >> https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/ 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems 
>> >> pointless. 
>> >> Either also keep Win 7 
>> >> or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10. 
>> >> 
>> >> my two cents... 
>> >> cheers -ben 
>> >> 
>> >> like Ben said, thanks for these pointers. 
>> > it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 
>> > 2008) 
>> > So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many 
>> > users still. 
>> > Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:01 AM Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> Hmm... regarding that function, 0x0600 would be enough. Sure. But Vista? Seriously? :-D
>> 
>> 
>> It's voting time! Here you go: http://www.strawpoll.me/20045290
>> 
>> No need to vote, you gave the best reason to keep 0x0600 in your statement above. Why drop support if 0x0600 is enough!?
>> 
>> Fabio
>>  
>> 
>> Best,
>> Marcel
>>> 
>>> Am 13.05.2020 21:50:49 schrieb Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman a écrit : 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin 
>>> 
>>> > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> >> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in 
>>> 
>>> >> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last 
>>> 
>>> >> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-) 
>>> 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> >> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1 
>>> 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> >> Stef 
>>> 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry. 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10. 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became 
>>> 
>>> > end-of-life at the beginning of this year. 
>>> 
>>> > I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the 
>>> 
>>> > wild for a coupe more years. 
>>> 
>>> > Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows 
>>> 
>>> > versions, mostly Windows 7. 
>>> 
>>> > Here it is by portion. 
>>> 
>>> > [image: image.png] 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/ 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems 
>>> 
>>> > pointless. 
>>> 
>>> > Either also keep Win 7 
>>> 
>>> > or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10. 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > my two cents... 
>>> 
>>> > cheers -ben 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > like Ben said, thanks for these pointers. 
>>> 
>>> it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 2008) 
>>> 
>>> So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many 
>>> 
>>> users still. 
>>> 
>>> Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> a écrit :
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur at zogotounga.net> wrote:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stef
>>> 
>>> Whoops.  I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry.
>>> 
>>> The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10.
>>>  
>>> My work machine is actually still on Windows 7.  It only became end-of-life at the beginning of this year.
>>> I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the wild for a coupe more years.
>>> Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows versions, mostly Windows 7.
>>> Here it is by portion.  
>>> 
>>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/  
>>> 
>>> So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems pointless.
>>> Either also keep Win 7
>>> or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10.
>>> 
>>> my two cents...
>>> cheers -ben
>>> 
>>> like Ben said, thanks for these pointers.
>>> it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 2008)
>>> So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many users still.
>>> Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602.
>>> 
>>> 
>>