couldn't get this to reproduce. sorry...<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com">marianopeck@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>Hi Eliot. Look at what a weird crash ;) (attached dmp)<br>Trying to load Moose with Metacello... how can a bitmap be related there? <br>
<br>And I think it is even reproducible in Windows with a Pharo 1.3 image and executing<br>
<br>Gofer new <br> squeaksource: 'Moose';<br> package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';<br>
load. <br> <br> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.<br><br><br>Smalltalk stack dump:<br> 0x19cd48 I Bitmap(ProtoObject)>become: 105252488: a(n) Bitmap<br> 0x19cd74 M Bitmap>? 105252488: a(n) Bitmap<br>
0x19cd8c M Bitmap>? 105252488: a(n) Bitmap<br> 0x19cda8 M Bitmap>? 105252488: a(n) Bitmap<br> 0x19cdcc M ConfigurationOfGrease class(Behavior)>basicAddSelector:withMethod: 96391684: a(n) ConfigurationOfGrease class<br>
0x19cdec M ConfigurationOfGrease class(Behavior)>methodDictAddSelectorSilently:withMethod: 96391684: a(n) ConfigurationOfGrease class<br> 0x19ce0c M ConfigurationOfGrease class(Behavior)>addSelectorSilently:withMethod: 96391684: a(n) ConfigurationOfGrease class<br>
0x19ce2c M ConfigurationOfGrease class(ClassDescription)>addSelectorSilently:withMethod: 96391684: a(n) ConfigurationOfGrease class<br> 0x19ce4c M MethodAddition>installMethod 98574536: a(n) MethodAddition<br> 0x19ce64 M [] in MCPackageLoader>basicLoad 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br>
0x19ce84 M OrderedCollection>do: 96368076: a(n) OrderedCollection<br> 0x19cea0 M [] in MCPackageLoader>basicLoad 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19cebc M BlockClosure>on:do: 96391128: a(n) BlockClosure<br>
0x19cee4 I [] in MCPackageLoader>basicLoad 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19cf04 M BlockClosure>ensure: 96391004: a(n) BlockClosure<br> 0x19cf28 I MCPackageLoader>basicLoad 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br>
0x19cf48 I [] in MCPackageLoader>loadWithNameLike: 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19cf6c I [] in MCPackageLoader>useChangeSetNamed:during: 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19cf8c M BlockClosure>ensure: 96390808: a(n) BlockClosure<br>
0x19cfb8 I MCPackageLoader>useChangeSetNamed:during: 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19cfe0 I MCPackageLoader>useNewChangeSetNamedLike:during: 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br> 0x19d008 I MCPackageLoader>loadWithNameLike: 96367996: a(n) MCPackageLoader<br>
0x19d030 I MCVersionLoader>loadWithNameLike: 96367856: a(n) MCVersionLoader<br> 0x19d054 I MCVersionLoader>load 96367856: a(n) MCVersionLoader<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Hani Abdeen</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hani.abdeen@gmail.com" target="_blank">hani.abdeen@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:28 PM<br>Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7<br>
To: Moose-related development <<a href="mailto:moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch" target="_blank">moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch</a>><br><br><br>Ok, this is quit strange.<br>I just loaded Moose default configuration using Croquet VM. No problem with that!!<br>
On the other hand, the Pharo VM 1.3 crashes each time I try to load the default configuration of Moose. The crash.dmp file is enclosed herewith. <br>
<br>Cheers,<br>Hani<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 December 2011 13:10, Stéphane Ducasse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr" target="_blank">stephane.ducasse@inria.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
let us (pharo) know the problems because this is really strange.<br>
<br>
Stef<br>
<div><div><br>
On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:<br>
<br>
> Alex,<br>
><br>
> Hani performed two experiments. One with the default VM shipped with<br>
> the Pharo OneClick, and one with the latest VM from Eliot.<br>
><br>
> When using the VM from Eliot, he only got an error that seemed to be<br>
> related to not finding something in squeaksource. That is why we<br>
> concluded that it might have been related to squeaksource.<br>
><br>
> Doru<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel<br>
> <<a href="mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com" target="_blank">alexandre.bergel@me.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Yesterday I was able to install it on OSX but not on WindowsXP, and at the same time.<br>
>><br>
>> Alexandre<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 5 Dec 2011, at 06:57, Tudor Girba wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks, Mariano.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Indeed, most likely the issue with the last email was a squeaksource problem.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hani, could you retry?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>> Doru<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com" target="_blank">marianopeck@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Weird. I have just tried in my machine and it works. Maybe squeaksource was<br>
>>>> down?<br>
>>>> Cheers<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Hani Abdeen <<a href="mailto:hani.abdeen@gmail.com" target="_blank">hani.abdeen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi Doru,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks for the information.<br>
>>>>> Ok, the Croquet VM<br>
>>>>> (<a href="http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip" target="_blank">http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip</a>) does not<br>
>>>>> crash while loading Moose on Pharo image but I still get errors when trying<br>
>>>>> to load moose configuration. See the attached logs for more information.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The premade Moose images on Moose website work well :)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>> Hani<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:51, Tudor Girba <<a href="mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com" target="_blank">tudor@tudorgirba.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Hani Abdeen wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Thanks Alex<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 22:07, Alexandre Bergel <<a href="mailto:alexandre.bergel@me.com" target="_blank">alexandre.bergel@me.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Interesting.<br>
>>>>>>> I am able to reproduce the problem, even with XP. The VM indeed<br>
>>>>>>> crashes.<br>
>>>>>>> At the same time, I run it on Mac, and it works well.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hani, just download the last OneClick Image. Many students of mine are<br>
>>>>>>> using it on a windows without any problem.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I thought that Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip is the last stable OneClick<br>
>>>>>>> release.<br>
>>>>>>> There is also Pharo-1.4.zip but it's annotated as unstable on<br>
>>>>>>> Pharo-Project website. I'll try it.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Alex meant that you could use the premade Moose OneClick image:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip" target="_blank">http://ci.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/moose_suite-4_6_dev.zip</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Another thing you can try is to use another VM instead of the one from<br>
>>>>>> the pharo oneclick. For example, try:<br>
>>>>>> <a href="http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip" target="_blank">http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2519/cogwin.zip</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> So, try redoing the experiment and run the Pharo image with the newly<br>
>>>>>> downloaded VM and let us know if it is better.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>> Doru<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>>> Alexandre<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> NB: I use VirtualBox to run Windows on my Mac, this is really cool. The<br>
>>>>>>> installation is a bit tricky however.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Yes I agree, it's great to have a strong mac and run Windows on Mac.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>>> Hani<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 17:43, Hani Abdeen wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Yes it's Strange, since me too did that several days ago and moose<br>
>>>>>>>> was loaded, but when I was playing with Moose the VM crashed. I thought that<br>
>>>>>>>> was a simple accident.<br>
>>>>>>>> So what I did many many times is the following:<br>
>>>>>>>> - unzip the Pharo-1.3-13315-OneClick.zip<br>
>>>>>>>> - execute pharo.exe<br>
>>>>>>>> - do "DEVImageWorkspaces openExternalProjectWorkspace."<br>
>>>>>>>> - then do:<br>
>>>>>>>> Gofer new<br>
>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Moose';<br>
>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';<br>
>>>>>>>> load.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> When I found that there is nothing to do and I have always this crash<br>
>>>>>>>> or an error I thought that I should ask about it.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>>> Hani<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:27, Tudor Girba <<a href="mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com" target="_blank">tudor@tudorgirba.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>> Hi Hani,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Something is strange. The continuous integration server is using this<br>
>>>>>>>> script every day without problems. It's true that it is on Linux, but that<br>
>>>>>>>> should not make much of a difference.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Could you provide us with the exact things you are doing (exact<br>
>>>>>>>> links, code and step orders)?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>>>> Doru<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:23, Hani Abdeen wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Oops, I past a wrong code above. I try to load the default<br>
>>>>>>>>> configuration of Moose not Magma:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>>>> Gofer new<br>
>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'Moose';<br>
>>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';<br>
>>>>>>>>> load.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadDefault.<br>
>>>>>>>>> ----<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Attached the log and crash dmp files.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Hani<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 December 2011 21:16, Tudor Girba <<a href="mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com" target="_blank">tudor@tudorgirba.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I do not understand. Are you loading Moose or Magma? Or trying to<br>
>>>>>>>>> load Magma in a Moose image?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Doru<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2011, at 21:05, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex this is strange because the log mention mondrian<br>
>>>>>>>>>> configuration file.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Hani Abdeen <<a href="mailto:hani.abdeen@gmail.com" target="_blank">hani.abdeen@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Pharo + Moose on Windows 7<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: December 4, 2011 8:52:57 PM GMT+01:00<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Stéphane Ducasse <<a href="mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr" target="_blank">stephane.ducasse@inria.fr</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stef,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I started reading "Pharo by Example" and "Moose book" and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> familiarizing myself with the new implementation of Moose.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I use Pharo 1.3 release on Windows 7.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, each time I open a clean image of Pharo and try to load the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> default configuration of Moose, using the code below, I get an error or the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> VM crashes!<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gofer new<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> load.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMagma) project<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> latestVersion) load<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> The error Stack and the crash dmp file are herewith attached for<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> more information.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that before all I should ask you if I have to use<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> another release of Pharo or if I have to load Moose differently...<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hani<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt><br>
>>>>>>>>>> <crash.dmp><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.tudorgirba.com" target="_blank">www.tudorgirba.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> "What we can governs what we wish."<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen<br>
>>>>>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> <ErrorDuringLoadingMooseConfigurationDefault-Pharo1.3.txt><crash.dmp>_______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list<br>
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>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.tudorgirba.com" target="_blank">www.tudorgirba.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum.<br>
>>>>>>>> But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of<br>
>>>>>>>> reality."<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen<br>
>>>>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:<br>
>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel <a href="http://www.bergel.eu" target="_blank">http://www.bergel.eu</a><br>
>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen<br>
>>>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>> --<br>
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>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> "Every thing should have the right to be different."<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
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>>>>> --<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Dr. Hani Abdeen<br>
>>>>> Phd. in Software Engineering - RMod, INRIA Lille-Nord Europe<br>
>>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Mariano<br>
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>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.<br>
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