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(final comment)<br /> <blockquote type="cite">On 14 June 2012 14:58, Andreas Raab <Andreas.Raab@gmx.de> wrote:<br />><br />><br />> It should be possible to disagree and still keep the discussion civilized. Please?<br />><br />><br />> My apologies. It wasn't meant to be uncivilized - just a bit of a gut reaction to "you know, you should just make your application a little simpler, then your need for immutability would go away" (*rolling my eyes*) I know comments like that from some of our so-called Engineering VPs in my last life and I might react a bit allergic to them. Apologies again.<br />><br /><br />I was trying to discuss a better solutions which may not require<br />immutability. I did not wanted to teach you about programming<br />whatever, but to point out that there is no silver bullet: a problems<br />in your design won't magically disappear once you will have<br />immutability.<br /><br />But your reaction can be expressed as: (rolling eyes) what are you<br />talking about?!?!</blockquote><br />What my rolling eyes mean is that the argument is non sequitor. The need for immutability is independent of the premise about how complex the system is, therefore the the argument is a fallacy. Anyway, I'm done here. Over and out.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /> - Andreas<br /><br /><blockquote type="cite"> there's nothing better. period (end rolling eyes).<br />so i stand off.. i cannot continue discussing with such stubborn attitude.<br /><br />> Cheers,<br />> - Andreas<br />><br />> I trust Eliot will take all this with a lump of his preferred mineral and come up with something good ;)<br />><br />> - Bert -<br />><br />> --<br />> Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir<br />> belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de<br />><br /><br /><br /><br />-- <br />Best regards,<br />Igor Stasenko.<br /></blockquote>
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