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    <font face="Georgia">I guess I was looking in the wrong place. I
      ended up using the 4.5 all-in-one as if it were simply a vm. Where
      is the preferred download these days?<br>
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      Cheers,<br>
      Bob<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/27/14 2:38 PM, Eliot Miranda
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Bob
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                  face="Georgia">David,<br>
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                  Thanks for the ideas. It's not repeatable on demand,
                  but, with Eliot's clue, I'll try to hammer SqueakSSL a
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                  Also, are VMs as regular Mac applications going away?<br>
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            <div>Absolutely not.</div>
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                  Cheers,<br>
                  Bob<br>
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                <div>On 3/27/14 11:12 AM, David T. Lewis wrote:<br>
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                  <pre>If the failure is reasonably repeatable, then you can try running your
image on an interpreter VM from <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://squeakvm.org/unix/" target="_blank">http://squeakvm.org/unix/</a> and see if the
symptoms change (although I think this requires installing X11 and
Freetype on your Mac in order to run the VM).
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