<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Aug 2015, at 16:46, Esteban Lorenzano <<a href="mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com" class="">estebanlm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Aug 2015, at 16:44, Mariano Martinez Peck <<a href="mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com" class="">marianopeck@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:36 AM, karl ramberg<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:karlramberg@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">karlramberg@gmail.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br class="">If Fuel is easier to port to Spur I think it could be worth taking a look at using it for project loading instead of image segment. <div class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fuel WILL be ported to Spur for sure. Cannot tell you when, but I can tell you that there is many people using Fuel (including myself) in Pharo. And so..at minimum when Pharo starts using Spur we will have to update Fuel. Also, check with Max Leske, since he is the official Fuel maintainer for Squeak. He keeps everything working: ConfigurationOfFuel, Jenkins, etc. </div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Fuel is *already* ported to fuel :)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>2nd “fuel” should be read as “Spur” :P</div><div> </div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Esteban</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Karl</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">On Thursday, August 20, 2015, David T. Lewis <<a href="mailto:lewis@mail.msen.com" target="_blank" class="">lewis@mail.msen.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><br class="">On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:31:00PM -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:<br class="">><br class="">> Hi guys,<br class="">><br class="">> As part of my PhD thesis I did take a deep look to ImageSegment before<br class="">> starting with Fuel. I wrote a journal paper about my experiments with<br class="">> ImageSegment which I thinks provides quite a documentation that is not<br class="">> written anywhere. Hope it helps:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/papers/Mart11c-COMLAN-ObjectSwapping.pdf" target="_blank" class="">http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/archives/papers/Mart11c-COMLAN-ObjectSwapping.pdf</a><br class=""><br class="">Hi Mariano,<br class=""><br class="">Thanks for the reference to your ObjectSwapping.pdf paper. I think that it<br class="">provides a very helpful overview.<br class=""><br class="">As an aside, we hold regular meetings of the Squeak oversight board, which<br class="">as you might expect sometimes diverge into discussion of technical issues of<br class="">one sort or another. In discussion earlier today, Eliot referred to your Fuel<br class="">implementation as "Parcels done right" and I agreed that I think it may help<br class="">with implementing image segments on new image formats (Spur, 32/64 bit images).<br class="">Personally, I like Fuel because it is easy to read and understand.<br class=""><br class="">I would encourage folks to read the ObjectSwapping paper and also to consider<br class="">helping with implementation of image segments on Spur images. Mariano's paper<br class="">provides good documentation on the topic.<br class=""><br class="">Dave<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""></blockquote></div><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br clear="all" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_signature" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Mariano<br class=""><a href="http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://marianopeck.wordpress.com</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>