<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">this is working in latest VM build.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17389/" class="">https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17389/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">so.. you can go back to use it :)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Esteban</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16 Jan 2016, at 16:47, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" class="">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hi Esteban,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:51 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <<a href="mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com" class="">estebanlm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16 Jan 2016, at 11:39, Esteban Lorenzano <<a href="mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com" class="">estebanlm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 16 Jan 2016, at 10:45, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" class="">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Hi Thierry,<br class=""><br class="">up until a few hours ago the latest VM sources were indeed broken by work I was doing on 64 bits. My sources are AFAIA now correct and I suppose you're waiting on Esteban doing a merge. But I'm responding since there seems to be a process error here.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">is still broken :)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">btw… I’m not merging anymore VMMaker packages, they are taken and built “as is” (I worked a lot to get back to this, heh) :)<br class="">this is what “latest” vm is.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">And I think this is the right thing to do. Can I get a stream of email from the ci build/test server which shows whether the VM is good or not?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">what happens is that time to time I still have to merge platform sources… but I made that Thursday so we are ok (just verified).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Anyway, it is still broken :(<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I'm working on it :)</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I need the freedom to break the VM, otherwise I can only extend it with difficulty. This assumes that there are currently servers that build and test the VM, and implies that we maintain the notion of the most recent good VM that has passed all the tests, and that this is the "latest" VM everyone is using.<br class=""><br class="">If there isn't this distinction then every time I extend the VM and make inevitable mistakes I affect users. That's clearly not sensible.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">yes of course, what we have is two versions of the VM:<br class=""><br class="">- “latest" build is a build with latest sources… this might be broken. People willing to help us find bugs should use this.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">- “stable” build is the VM after it passed all tests… and that’s what people willing some stability should use :)<br class=""><br class="">what actually is happening now is that there is a lot of people helping in the migration of spur (something I thank, a lot) and then they use latest vm version… who is usually very stable (but not always, as is the case).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">cheers,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Esteban<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Thierry Goubier <<a href="mailto:thierry.goubier@gmail.com" class="">thierry.goubier@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi Guys,<br class=""><br class="">has something changed in string handling? I'm unable to get the latest Pharo to read files containing utf8 data.<br class=""><br class="">I tracked it down to a primitive (at:put:) in WideString and to the latest vm for Pharo 5, so, maybe there is something wrong in the latest vm.<br class=""><br class="">Thierry</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>