<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Fabio,<br><br></div><div><br>On Jun 17, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Fabio Niephaus <<a href="mailto:lists@fniephaus.com">lists@fniephaus.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Tim and I just stripped all files from the repository that were larger than 7M. These were images, changes, sources, and test files (a detailed list is attached). Please clone the repository again.</div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">You can find a backup of the sources files that were in /sources on the Cog/master branch at [1]. We have also updated the .gitignore to ignore *.image, *.changes, and *.sources globally.</span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height:1.5">@Eliot: could you shed some light on how the sources files have been used? Instead of using git-lfs, it might be better to host large files somewhere (e.g. on Bintray since we are already using it) and to download them on demand.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Some builds include sources files, such as Newwspeak. See eg build.macos32x86/newspeak.cog.spur/installer.<div><br></div><div>I agree, downloading them would be best. But it would be great if they were available from one place rather than having to use URLs on various sites. Not important. Just convenient.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div>On smaller systems, it might still be better to download the zip [2] or to only clone the last n commits via `git clone --depth n ...`.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Fabio</div><div><br>[1] <a href="https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/assets/sources/svn-backup/view?sort=&order=#files">https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/assets/sources/svn-backup/view?sort=&order=#files</a></div><div>[2] e.g. <a href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/archive/master.zip">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/archive/master.zip</a></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="GmSign">-- <br><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:18 AM Dimitris Chloupis <<a href="mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com">kilon.alios@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">if you dont want to worry about the technically details of Git I highly advise using some of the excellent git gui clients , I use GitUP which greatly simplifies git<br><br><a href="http://gitup.co/" target="_blank">http://gitup.co/</a><br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="GmSign">-- <br><br></div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:47 AM Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
<br>
> On Jun 17, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Tim Felgentreff <<a href="mailto:timfelgentreff@gmail.com" target="_blank">timfelgentreff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Eliot,<br>
><br>
> we can nuke the history, but everyone will have to re-clone the<br>
> repository. Fabio and I will do it today, before everyone gets busy on<br>
> the new repo.<br>
><br>
> About the images you mention that are supposed to be there: These<br>
> *will* cause problems down the road. There is no way we can keep<br>
> removing them from history when new versions come to replace them, and<br>
> still maintain a sensible collaborative development approach.<br>
> Rewriting history to remove this will cause problems for everyone<br>
> involved. These binary files really shouldn't be in Git at all.<br>
<br>
As far as I'm concerned there should be /no/ image or changes files in the repo. I can't speak to eg the iPhone image, only the ones in the image directory. So don't read that I think any of them should be there :-). IMO nuke them all. Anyone want to defend one of the images b4 it's too late???? Heh heh heh...<br>
<br>
><br>
> cheers,<br>
> Tim<br>
><br>
>> On 16 June 2016 at 20:24, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi Bert,<br>
>><br>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Bert Freudenberg <<a href="mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de" target="_blank">bert@freudenbergs.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Eliot Miranda <<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi All,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Ben Coman <<a href="mailto:btc@openinworld.com" target="_blank">btc@openinworld.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> What is the advantage of this? The 44 .image files stored in the<br>
>>>>> repository take up 196MB, doubling the space.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What are the images? IIRC there are no images in the svn repo. The only big files are sources files for various key squeak and Pharo releases. Did I check in images in the images directory by mistake? There should be nine there; they're to be downloaded and built/converted, not checked into the repository.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> So please, list these image files here...<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Here's a list of all the blobs larger than 1 MB:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks. None of those image (or associated changes) files should exist in image/. None of them exist in the svn repository. How did they creep in? Some who's already up and running might like to nuke them and commit them to the master asap. To be clear<br>
>><br>
>> image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.image<br>
>> image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.changes (if it exists)<br>
>> image/CogTrunk43.image<br>
>> image/CogTrunk43.changes<br>
>><br>
>> should exist. Is this history pruning issue? Ah, that's what must have happened. They were in svn at one time, and so have got copied in as part of moving the entire history. So... anyone know enough git internals to prune this part of the history?<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 289eaa1573428ec1d31e5b1d0c672f1dd4389ff4 75830604 image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.image<br>
>>> dae3895f5cb962ec205710e5e135af1fedadeb3e 35378778 sources/SqueakV46.sources<br>
>>> 2c74b720358234a061e8a6fbcb4450684b917527 23188396 image/CogTrunk43.image<br>
>>> 6021cb4306d88aca6e1dd1d1fa648b7b18afb346 22212014 image/CogTrunk43.changes<br>
>>> 1c0d4671846802366fa00265b172fd57bc7f1e06 21110428 image/CogTrunk43.image<br>
>>> ecac4ad04095069bc697c4c2a2e1f858294a9811 20246864 platforms/iOS/vm/iPhone/iPhone.image<br>
>>> 501a17b3af13bc384c3b7d09e9f045e519bd2990 14207204 image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.image<br>
>>> 47f32118be78eb4918384f4412539bcc7a8b676f 13537612 image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.image<br>
>>> 6602ee71ed2fd921ad23b4ad6cd69e70c453719c 13395572 image/VMMaker-Squeak4.1.image<br>
>>> b0db5cee8f4047fd5ca02f0910bbb4bad09e152d 8000008 FloatMathPlugin/testdata/log-large.dat<br>
>>> 83ed67006c7e7ef741d14122bdd67f23a8f6667d 8000008 FloatMathPlugin/testdata/sqrt-large.dat<br>
>>> 7ebaa30ee9f4f64dd82651646acb6f79a34eff20 8000008 FloatMathPlugin/testdata/exp-large.dat<br>
>>> 7cfacf7f9a795c47f2077a02623d5120587b73a5 8000008 FloatMathPlugin/testdata/atan-large.dat<br>
>>> 364dc80dc5e1e7f2a02c9c7030190da4f8ebea42 8000008 FloatMathPlugin/testdata/sin-large.dat<br>
>>> 8d6d32a9a5ec14dfc40b255198d4c27f2b0e0a58 6948164 platforms/win32/third-party/dx9sdk/Lib/d3dx9dt.lib<br>
>>> 2becfa74458d9c8124e704d1a1a4f7ac3615c59a 6225720 nsspurcogbuild/macbuild/build/CoreVM.build/CoreVM.pbxindex/symbols0.pbxsymbols<br>
>>> ffc9f0d8c9dcce47e80450f751bd8153f446d3eb 5959648 platforms/win32/third-party/dx9sdk/Lib/d3dx9.lib<br>
>>> 4965f047c2cfcbac8fe0f117b2703d5d431c82fc 5549557 platforms/iOS/vm/iPhone/iPhone.changes<br>
>>> ca804ab97ede40e5a399b8252c8847a23e431d48 5249151 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/opcodes/i386-tbl.h<br>
>>> 04e86ba5ef6e2f17f2bbc469212dfd64ee92f2e6 4299471 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/opcodes/m32c-desc.c<br>
>>> 8d66e7b3f3d10585846476ac343627852530647a 4287774 platforms/iOS/vm/SqueakPureObjcCogVM.xcodeproj/johnmci.pbxuser<br>
>>> 61e0ce4736dca3b7d5be29fe9ad70ff1be52502f 4061860 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/opcodes/m32c-opc.c<br>
>>> 3f039fa2a9694c8049b5ba54353993c6c36b067f 3901404 platforms/win32/third-party/dx9sdk/Lib/DxErr9.lib<br>
>>> e23bc8c971c834ae2793efd3f3ef9eabf490fe50 3309142 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/sim/frv/model.c<br>
>>> 747dce4e607d40bb596cf897ed41e0f8d6ac5e58 3129142 platforms/win32/plugins/FT2Plugin/freetype.a<br>
>>> 8e0a3dd9550a78e6c4de99bb66348f203942f266 2904152 nsspur64src/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> dead491d0e30636474ff7a7cbdb15b84f4604638 2903895 nsspur64src/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> de51f985f55ec82538a9806d3dcef1fcd788cec7 2745979 spursistasrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 6fa7c5a4780c3e3d220e39d612572e708c9fddd2 2565876 spur64src/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 4d775921bd65ac10884de1d75a595052b7efb000 2549550 spur64src/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 4ff55f09936dc5e3bd31e6f869212b5ad6504bb1 2539136 nsspurstack64src/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 339e0fadfb07d7386e6940039c8c75904841795a 2538879 nsspurstack64src/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 25ef6ba9ac1305551024e651ae59fffa3c37b42e 2499583 nsspurstacksrc/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 408fd7522634a24e3100131466c9845c1e4aede5 2489223 spursrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 755e2901d955ee552537ba5257e37baa57026fbc 2467156 platforms/win32/third-party/dx9sdk/Lib/d3dx8dt.lib<br>
>>> 207e1d8998b933ae6e9e8c95b49f5549c01abba7 2335480 build.macos64x64/xcode/CocoaTemplate/build/CocoaTemplate.build/CocoaTemplate.pbxindex/symbols0.pbxsymbols<br>
>>> 440955ce2200921b12153427645b8b191f8519be 2190822 nsspurstacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 2eeab574645d321b7c82e9326e8ce6fca0ea90a6 2166050 spursistasrc/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 8305ff4c2132877d299251b2cf8ce0ef9e253f5e 2151212 platforms/win32/third-party/dx9sdk/Lib/d3dx8.lib<br>
>>> ac5b064ff1dab48e062b55abbf4ca062a2208ba4 2120346 nsspurcogbuild/macbuild/build/CoreVM.build/CoreVM.pbxindex/strings.pbxstrings/strings<br>
>>> 34622fc8d020d258054f991209e02d300f51e4af 2097172 nsspurcogbuild/macbuild/build/CoreVM.build/CoreVM.pbxindex/strings.pbxstrings/control<br>
>>> 0339985e008c6a3aef0f100b81c305185aa68a02 2038849 spurstacksrc/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 12738ed85962daaf6a8b9d1abd84753e743687f6 1979492 spursrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 92e95daf567930738b49a7ad87585c96623733fb 1884583 nsspurstacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 74a462dc2ab59214a0d4c6aee24f39a9616ea2ee 1883410 build.linux32ARM/asasm<br>
>>> 3f03bc920c4b7ece1d0b1866c4e2370333a6f89e 1873776 nsspurstacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 2aca9a5c0f5e608a70db5cfc91a6a886666d245f 1862675 sistasrc/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 76bcfe783efb5c8cd347ab5fe540e53b18796a7a 1847830 src/vm/gcc3x-cointerpmt.c<br>
>>> 67111059d939197a333ef99a0c3369a240d0607d 1847573 src/vm/cointerpmt.c<br>
>>> 965a8b480996779d2345ca314707408c4471d808 1820909 spursrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> c07fff851d59be32a9a622c933ec3bfc99aadb8f 1813731 spursrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 0535c5a8bbc8cacb45444b63d1bb0fac4d8c945d 1805930 src/vm/cointerpmt.c<br>
>>> b32dd1706c9cb9243ab601bea5858ee4c4d35841 1775670 src/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 5bcff5e443fd9c85565424ce254dae35ebddc512 1766278 spursrc/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> fd22897bc5560fb323a53f1cfa70482a1041fea4 1740866 src/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 61e0ab62c5a681d2c3cebc8f07f2b19509b09fcd 1702387 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/Makefile.in<br>
>>> fcf11dee7a4281cf55bf3ac934c03c65a2549da7 1651282 spurstacksrc/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 459c08ef533a0fa1d890c4cbf98677c821575eb6 1640494 spurstacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 37130b7b5654d6463ef9ae0c1cdc41557563ea6e 1606745 nscogsrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> e79dc6385d03bf4fb366ee2f0ab17a9a1da6fd92 1601274 src/vm/gcc3x-cointerpmt.c<br>
>>> 63a0a45c3deba933fa3e8bf5e19fdba89c9f3382 1601017 src/vm/cointerpmt.c<br>
>>> b869bae1da98ed4f113b599569313384b618ba2f 1597168 nscogsrc/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 6ffe6d1c5cfc5437c9ad7546984435003955b967 1570257 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/sim/testsuite/sim/bfin/se_all32bitopcodes.S<br>
>>> 08049deb96d0c1ac13cc73783c5be49bdf9d6167 1545524 processors/ARM/gdb-7.6/Makefile.in<br>
>>> b204734be5f5ecac3359c59fc91bb57e87d686e2 1539831 src/vm/gcc3x-cointerp.c<br>
>>> 516583bb2d3ab842905c2de5a64c1ae7da2cd02b 1533080 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/sim/testsuite/sim/bfin/se_all64bitg0opcodes.S<br>
>>> 0005172fb0f366b97ceb72659d96ff8ec7f3fc23 1465675 nscogsrc/vm/cointerp.c<br>
>>> 88a8274c105c920e26e0d9604c721361a52fc83f 1463083 spurstacksrc/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 936576ff13fe06747798c82a4dd38361c4ab23d8 1346792 stacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 2e14536e7c96b802f76896455e7ba60c12d0dc89 1341859 stacksrc/vm/interp.c<br>
>>> 02d4abfbda264e0293a77822b9557ae315697a55 1326768 stacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 17f186d5c7eb600b599725a88bf84cbb9ec2282a 1284776 platforms/win32/plugins/CameraPlugin/STRMBASE.lib<br>
>>> bf57ded9f7b284fe26e6a18faf456b3393aed98c 1275996 build.macos32x86/squeak.cog.spur/resources/FT2Plugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/FT2Plugin<br>
>>> b10adc6f89039843e66c4b876bed9049e309ef04 1255450 processors/IA32/bochs/build/macos/CWPro3_project.sit<br>
>>> e9dd77ab38f5db36a47b12b002fa3d6859c7339a 1238039 processors/IA32/bochs/configure<br>
>>> b5c75b9330c2a9ab779842894d95a2eabaa3ce1d 1200054 build.win32x86/newspeak.cog.spur/installer/InstallerBackground.bmp<br>
>>> bfa76e31a4107eaaca11851d3dc536fd9ab2da77 1171699 platforms/Mac<br>
>>> d9261fba5ba9e6898ffa31776938549e3ca507e2 1157317 spursistasrc/vm/cogitARMv5.c<br>
>>> ed6fe63fb4832f1c099e8149ef633d72d576b4e3 1153949 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/opcodes/i386-opc.tbl<br>
>>> 9844474fe8ea7082b12125d76c5e3b3a853b8d0d 1132761 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/opcodes/m32c-opc.h<br>
>>> 2b2201585be870860f6c480a1a95eb4f8c3a3509 1108303 stacksrc/vm/gcc3x-interp.c<br>
>>> 4e31ed52ad15c7216bc0299794ba7388bd4c1a67 1069859 spursistasrc/vm/cogitIA32.c<br>
>>> 46b20c4e6ef3e5c436938e7e2982017fd2b13d7e 1064268 nsspurcogbuild/macbuild/build/CoreVM.build/CoreVM.pbxindex/cdecls.pbxbtree<br>
>>> c36cc19ee1658d23886d93a73289048128c4ba95 1048596 build.macos64x64/xcode/CocoaTemplate/build/CocoaTemplate.build/CocoaTemplate.pbxindex/strings.pbxstrings/control<br>
>>> 7fb702db78c6af71da3d1927a8b16ed6393df4ce 1045815 spursistasrc/vm/cogitMIPSEL.c<br>
>>> f9eebe49b93b9fe5ac9879f84f505caaee5e2521 1044784 spursistasrc/vm/cogitMIPSEL.c<br>
>>> d28406446edf029b9b389403d882c6ae581d1fb2 1043986 platforms/unix/config/configure<br>
>>> e7dbfe6af3567f7878b51c44806605012469ba47 1043820 platforms/Mac<br>
>>> 126d45143fcb4ec0f4c79a7c8f2c215f9c5f491e 1041640 nsspur64src/vm/cogitX64.c<br>
>>> 8c8384e04b343c2216e1b9244f3b60a73e289007 1017027 processors/ARM/gdb-7.10/sim/testsuite/sim/mips/mips32-dsp2.s<br>
>>><br>
>>> - Bert -<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _,,,^..^,,,_<br>
>> best, Eliot<br>
>><br>
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