<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Ken, Hi All,<br><br><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)</span></div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Ken G. Brown <<a href="mailto:kbrown@mac.com">kbrown@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><span style="font-family: LucidaGrande;" class="">I’ve recently attempted to get to the latest bleeding edge 64bit for macOS 10.13.3 and found a numbering mismatch on updating. </span></div></blockquote><div><br></div>The update number in the image is unrelated to the version number in the VM. The app bundle gets named at release time and that's the only time they agree. Since the image can update itself but the VM cannot it's good practice to track the opensmalltalk commit messages mentioning new versions of the vm sources. But it's even better practice yo download VMs from bintray when they're green.<div><br></div><div><a href="https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog/">https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog/</a></div><div><br></div><div>64-bits works very well on Mac is x I'm happy to report and I've moved my daily development there from 32 bits a few months ago.</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="" style="font-family: LucidaGrande;">Here’s my tale of attempt at getting up to date…<div class="">• Looked on <a href="http://squeak.org" class="">squeak.org</a> for the latest development versions.</div><div class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;">• Went to Downloads, <span class="" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font color="#1b3c81" face="Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="">Current Alpha Version (a.k.a. "Trunk" or "Bleeding Edge”) and got to </font></span><a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/" class="">http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/</a></div><div class="">Downloaded </div><table summary="Directory Listing" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="" style="margin-left: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Times; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td class="n" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;"><a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-201704270225-macOS.zip" class="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143);">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-201704270225-macOS.zip</a></td><td class="m" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">2017-12-19 17:08</td><td class="s" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; text-align: right; padding-right: 14px;">31.6M</td><td class="t" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">File</td></tr><tr class=""><td class="n" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;"><a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-All-in-One.zip" class="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143);">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-All-in-One.zip</a></td><td class="m" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">2017-12-19 17:08</td><td class="s" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; text-align: right; padding-right: 14px;">35.6M</td><td class="t" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">File</td></tr><tr class=""><td class="n" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;"><a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.zip" class="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143);">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.zip</a></td><td class="m" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">2017-12-19 17:08</td><td class="s" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; text-align: right; padding-right: 14px;">17.1M</td><td class="t" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: monospace; padding-right: 14px;">File</td></tr></tbody></table><div class="">• expanded <a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-All-in-One.zip" class="" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 11.699999809265137px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143);">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-All-in-One.zip</a>, double clicked Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-All-in-One.app, clicked Skip for Welcome to Squeak, did Save As New Version, don’t see the image and changes, find them in the .app by doing Show Package Contents. This seems very non-Macish, I like to see the image and changes in the folder where I am working. ...Give up on all-in-one.</div><div class="">• expanded <a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-201704270225-macOS.zip" class="" style="font-family: monospace; font-size: 11.699999809265137px; orphans: 2; widows: 2; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143);">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-201704270225-macOS.zip</a> and find Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.app</div><div class="">• expanded Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.zip and find:</div><div class="">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.image</div><div class=""><div class="">Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.changes</div><div class="">Put Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.app in the same folder as the image and changes, I don’t see the sources file but think maybe it is hiding in the .app. Drag the image on the .app and get error saying it cannot find the sources file. Look for v60 sources file on <a href="http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/" class="">files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit/</a>, don’t see it. Find <a href="http://files.squeak.org/sources_files/" class="">http://files.squeak.org/sources_files/</a> but latest version is <a href="http://files.squeak.org/sources_files/SqueakV50.sources.gz" class="" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(72, 70, 143); font-family: monospace; font-size: 11.7px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">SqueakV50.sources.gz</a>, try putting that in the same folder as image, changes and .app, that works.</div><div class="">• Skip Welcome to Squeak ‘Configure'</div><div class="">• Do Save As a new Version, find the new image and changes in the same folder, looking good.</div><div class="">• Look at About Squeak to see the VM version, find:</div><div class=""><div class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Image</div><div class="">-----</div><div class="">/Users/kbrownmp/myStuff/mySmalltalkStuff/Sqkb/0Sqkb6.x/17595/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.zip Folder/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit-temp.image</div><div class="">Squeak6.0alpha</div><div class="">latest update: #17595</div><div class="">Current Change Set: Unnamed1</div><div class="">Image format 68021 (64 bit)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Virtual Machine</div><div class="">---------------</div><div class="">/Users/kbrownmp/myStuff/mySmalltalkStuff/Sqkb/0Sqkb6.x/17595/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.zip Folder/Squeak6.0alpha-17595-64bit.app/Contents/MacOS/Squeak</div><div class="">Croquet Closure Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives VMMaker.oscog-eem.2203] 64 bit</div><div class="">Mac OS X built on Apr 27 2017 02:52:10 UTC Compiler: 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 7.3.0 (clang-703.0.31)</div><div class="">platform sources revision VM: 201704270225 <a href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git" class="">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git</a> $ Date: Wed Apr 26 19:25:21 2017 -0700 $ Plugins: 201704270225 <a href="https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git" class="">https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git</a> $</div><div class="">CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2203 uuid: 12d4afae-8498-4e76-8efe-60eba6ef4db2 Apr 27 2017</div><div class="">StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-eem.2203 uuid: 12d4afae-8498-4e76-8efe-60eba6ef4db2 Apr 27 2017</div></blockquote></div><div class="">VM seems kinda old dating back to Wed Apr 26 19:25:21 2017, will try to find a current one, could use tips for doing that.</div><div class="">• Do Squeak/Update Squeak, seems to update without error…get in Transcript:</div><div class=""><div class="">========== Update completed: 17595 -> 17303 ==========</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This seems incorrect.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ken G. Brown</div></div></div></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 26, 2018, at 11:24, Casey Ransberger <<a href="mailto:casey.obrien.r@gmail.com" class="">casey.obrien.r@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Forgive the clueless question: I've been out of the scene for a while. I just found out that Apple is killing 32-bit support in the next version of OS X.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Do we run cleanly with a 64-bit VM under OS X? I want to think I knew that we did. Memory is foggy though, and if I need to figure out how to install Linux on the lappy I should get started soon.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks in advance.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--C</div></div>
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