<div dir="ltr">Hope everyone doesn't mind but I'd like to jump in.<div><br></div><div>David was right to moderate. There is no benefit to continuing this discussion. Everyone working on the VM is extremely capable and dedicated to doing a really terrific job. We all support and admire the work you are doing. I see bugs and issues well isolated for development, I see great care going into protecting the dev build and swift corrections when something goes wrong. I see everyone stepping up and solving real issues and supporting a large amount of change in an extremely professional way that frankly I'm very proud of! </div><div><br></div><div>Let's move on!</div><div><br></div><div>I recommend putting the moderator bit back on for Jan.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div>Ron Teitelbaum</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Eliot Miranda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" target="_blank">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br><div dir="ltr">Hi Jan,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Jan Barger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:barniisk@gmail.com" target="_blank">barniisk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Sorry for incident, put Pharo which i downloaded crashed, and the same with my old image and new vm and new 64 bit. </span><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Eliot is maybe just too good guy, but consequences for future and vm which are so complicated and unstable just pointing to his unmature and nonprofesional work. </span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Specifically what is unprofessional and immature about my work? The thread you originally responded to was one where I pointed out that the Pharo VM was out-of-date. I referred to a bug that was mine (have you ever released software containing bugs?), and that I had fixed, as promptly as I could once I had an error report. How is that being unprofessional?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Maybe Cincom is not financing him to do this nasty job to pharo and vm, but it seems so.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How do you conclude this from my actions? And what specifically about what I've done for the Pharo VM is a "nasty job"? Do you know that I am not responsible for the Pharo VM? That I don't build it, and that I help maintain it pro bono. Do you know that Spur is now faster than VisualWorks and once Scorch/Sista is stable and in production that the VM will be significantly faster than VisualWorks? How is that in Cincom's benefit?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Thanks, and sorry once more for this incident.</span><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for what, and specifically which incident to you refer to?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-28 3:36 GMT+02:00 Sean P. DeNigris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean@clipperadams.com" target="_blank">sean@clipperadams.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
David T. Lewis wrote<br>
<span>> The vm-dev list has for many years been inhabited by talented and<br>
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<span>> If anyone would like to see the messages that have been blocked so far,<br>
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