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</div>On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 03:10, Nicolas Cellier <<a href="mailto:nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com" class="">nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>This looks more like psychotic symptoms and obsessional/delusional disorders than constructive and positive attitude.
<br />This is not going anywhere but round in circles.
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</div>David, could you switch on the moderate flag ?
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<div>One pair of my smelly socs ws <span style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:24px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs<span> </span></span>
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<div>Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the conversion to 64-bits,</div>
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<div>What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:</div>
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<div>fast ( cogblog )</div>
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<div>COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
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<div>which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications. A lot of the complexity
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<div>Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.</div>
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<div>I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo for Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and previous good images and vms.</div>
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