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Vista was crap. :-)<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Marcel</div><div class="mb_sig"></div><blockquote class="history_container" type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px; margin-top:20px; margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">
<p style="color: #AAAAAA; margin-top: 10px;">Am 14.05.2020 10:37:19 schrieb Fabio Niephaus <lists@fniephaus.com>:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:01 AM Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel@hpi.de>
<br>wrote:
<br>
<br>>
<br>> Hmm... regarding that function, 0x0600 would be enough. Sure. But Vista?
<br>> Seriously? :-D
<br>>
<br>> It's voting time! Here you go: http://www.strawpoll.me/20045290
<br>>
<br>
<br>No need to vote, you gave the best reason to keep 0x0600 in your statement
<br>above. Why drop support if 0x0600 is enough!?
<br>
<br>Fabio
<br>
<br>
<br>>
<br>> Best,
<br>> Marcel
<br>>
<br>> Am 13.05.2020 21:50:49 schrieb Nicolas Cellier <><br>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com>:
<br>> Hi all,
<br>>
<br>> Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman a écrit :
<br>>
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin
<br>> > wrote:
<br>> >
<br>> >>
<br>> >> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in
<br>> >> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the
<br>> last
<br>> >> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-)
<br>> >>
<br>> >> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1
<br>> >>
<br>> >> Stef
<br>> >>
<br>> >
<br>> > Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry.
<br>> >
<br>> > The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10.
<br>> >
<br>> > My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became
<br>> > end-of-life at the beginning of this year.
<br>> > I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in
<br>> the
<br>> > wild for a coupe more years.
<br>> > Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows
<br>> > versions, mostly Windows 7.
<br>> > Here it is by portion.
<br>> > [image: image.png]
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems
<br>> > pointless.
<br>> > Either also keep Win 7
<br>> > or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10.
<br>> >
<br>> > my two cents...
<br>> > cheers -ben
<br>> >
<br>> > like Ben said, thanks for these pointers.
<br>> it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server
<br>> 2008)
<br>> So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many
<br>> users still.
<br>> Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602.
<br>>
<br>> Hi all,
<br>>
<br>> Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> a écrit :
<br>>
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur@zogotounga.net>
<br>>> wrote:
<br>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in
<br>>>>
<br>>>> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last
<br>>>>
<br>>>> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-)
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>>
<br>>>> Stef
<br>>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry.
<br>>>
<br>>> The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10.
<br>>>
<br>>> My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became
<br>>> end-of-life at the beginning of this year.
<br>>> I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the
<br>>> wild for a coupe more years.
<br>>> Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows
<br>>> versions, mostly Windows 7.
<br>>> Here it is by portion.
<br>>> [image: image.png]
<br>>>
<br>>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/
<br>>>
<br>>>
<br>>> So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems
<br>>> pointless.
<br>>> Either also keep Win 7
<br>>> or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10.
<br>>>
<br>>> my two cents...
<br>>> cheers -ben
<br>>>
<br>>> like Ben said, thanks for these pointers.
<br>> it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server
<br>> 2008)
<br>> So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many
<br>> users still.
<br>> Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602.
<br>>
<br>>
<br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:01 AM Marcel Taeumel <<a href="mailto:marcel.taeumel@hpi.de">marcel.taeumel@hpi.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div id="gmail-m_-6057281076632493606__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size: 10pt;font-family: Arial;color: rgb(0,0,0)">
<br> Hmm... regarding that function, <span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size: 13px">0x0600 would be enough. Sure. But Vista? Seriously? :-D</span><div></div>
<br> <div><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size: 13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size: 13px">It's voting time! Here you go: </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://www.strawpoll.me/20045290" style="font-size: 10pt" target="_blank">http://www.strawpoll.me/20045290</a></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No need to vote, you gave the best reason to keep 0x0600 in your statement above. Why drop support if 0x0600 is enough!?</div><div><br></div><div>Fabio</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div id="gmail-m_-6057281076632493606__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size: 10pt;font-family: Arial;color: rgb(0,0,0)"><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Marcel</div><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin-top:20px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;min-width:500px">
<br> <p style="color:rgb(170,170,170);margin-top:10px">Am 13.05.2020 21:50:49 schrieb Nicolas Cellier <<a href="mailto:nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com</a>>:</p><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> Hi all,
<br><br>
<br><br>Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman <u></u> a écrit :
<br><br>
<br><br>>
<br><br>>
<br><br>>
<br><br>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin <u></u>
<br><br>> wrote:
<br><br>>
<br><br>>>
<br><br>>> > We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in
<br><br>>> > reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last
<br><br>>> > update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-)
<br><br>>>
<br><br>>> FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1
<br><br>>>
<br><br>>> Stef
<br><br>>>
<br><br>>
<br><br>> Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry.
<br><br>>
<br><br>> The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10.
<br><br>>
<br><br>> My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became
<br><br>> end-of-life at the beginning of this year.
<br><br>> I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the
<br><br>> wild for a coupe more years.
<br><br>> Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows
<br><br>> versions, mostly Windows 7.
<br><br>> Here it is by portion.
<br><br>> [image: image.png]
<br><br>>
<br><br>> <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/" target="_blank">https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/</a>
<br><br>>
<br><br>>
<br><br>> So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems
<br><br>> pointless.
<br><br>> Either also keep Win 7
<br><br>> or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10.
<br><br>>
<br><br>> my two cents...
<br><br>> cheers -ben
<br><br>>
<br><br>> like Ben said, thanks for these pointers.
<br><br>it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 2008)
<br><br>So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many
<br><br>users still.
<br><br>Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602.
<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le mer. 13 mai 2020 à 19:15, Ben Coman <<a href="mailto:btc@openinworld.com" target="_blank">btc@openinworld.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;min-width:500px"> <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 16:38, Stéphane Rollandin <<a href="mailto:lecteur@zogotounga.net" target="_blank">lecteur@zogotounga.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;min-width:500px"> <br>
<br><br>> We could bump further but Windows 8 looks like a fair improvement in <br>
<br><br>> reliability and robustness comparing to its predecessors. And the last <br>
<br><br>> update for Windows 8 was only 8 years ago. Not even a decade. :-)<br>
<br><br><br>
<br><br>FWIW I am still on Windows 8.1<br>
<br><br><br>
<br><br>Stef<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Whoops. I was about to say Windows 8 was crap - no one uses it. sorry.</div><div><br></div><div>The "good" versions of Windows were XP, 7 and 10.</div><div> <br></div><div>My work machine is actually still on Windows 7. It only became end-of-life at the beginning of this year.<br>I'd like to upgrade to 10 soon, but there are many 7 installations in the wild for a coupe more years.<br>Roughly 200 million PCs worldwide will still be running older Windows versions, mostly Windows 7.<br>Here it is by portion. </div><div><div><img alt="image.png" width="472" height="107"></img><br></div></div><div><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/" target="_blank">https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-many-pcs-are-still-running-windows-7-today/</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>So I'd agree XP definitely should be dumped, but settling on Win 8 seems pointless.</div><div>Either also keep Win 7</div><div>or also dump Win 8 and jump all the way to Win 10.</div><div><br></div><div>my two cents...</div><div>cheers -ben</div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>like Ben said, thanks for these pointers.<br></div><div>it seems that the function is supported as of 0x0600 (vista and server 2008)</div><div>So it's not necessary to break compatibility with windows 7 yet, too many users still.</div><div>Just use 0x0600 instead of 0x0602.<br></div></div></div></div>
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