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Hi Ron!

"Ron Teitelbaum" <Ron at USMedRec.com> wrote:
> When Smalltalk was
> <http://www.smalltalk.org/smalltalk/TheEarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk_Abstract.html
> >  created more than 35 years ago it defined the term object orientation and
> is the first language in which everything is built from objects. Smalltalk
> is deeply inspired by ideas from especially Simula
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simula> , Sketchpad
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sketchpad>  and Lisp
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_programming_language>  and even today
> Smalltalk sets the bar for object oriented dynamically strongly typed
> interactive languages and environments.
> 
> *       maybe this would be better
> 
> When Smalltalk was
> <http://www.smalltalk.org/smalltalk/TheEarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk_Abstract.html
> >  created more than 35 years ago it defined the term object orientation and
> is the first language in which everything is built from objects. Smalltalk
> is deeply inspired by ideas from Simula
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simula> , Sketchpad
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sketchpad>  and Lisp
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_programming_language>  and even today
> Smalltalk sets the bar for object oriented dynamically typed interactive
> languages and environments.
>   
> 
> Because especially does not describe the list and is grammatically
> incorrect.  Also adding strongly before typed suggests that Smalltalk is
> typed.  

I used "especially" because Smalltalk was also inspired by other
sources. How can I make it more grammatically correct and still maintain
that meaning?

And no - Smalltalk IS strongly typed. But it is not statically typed.
The area is a bit confused but I think if you ask some of the gurus you
will find they agree with me. :)

> *       or
> 
> When Smalltalk was
> <http://www.smalltalk.org/smalltalk/TheEarlyHistoryOfSmalltalk_Abstract.html
> >  created more then 35 years ago it defined the term object orientation.
> Smalltalk was deeply inspired by Simula
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simula> , Sketchpad
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sketchpad>  and Lisp
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_programming_language>  which have also
> inspired most modern programming languages.  The concept of object
> orientation revolutionized computer programming and is considered essential
> to solving today's complex computer problems.  In Smalltalk everything is
> built from objects.  Most of Smalltalk is written in Smalltalk making it one
> of the most accessible languages.  Smalltalk is an extremely powerful object
> oriented dynamically typed interactive language and environment.

My personal comments:

1. It is a tad too long. I have trimmed the first page a lot to keep it
smallish.

2. The middle sentence (revolutionized etc) is a bit over the top for my
personal liking. But it is a border case Revolutional - maybe, but I
think there are other paradigms that do well on complex computer
problems. Just see Haskell etc. And yes, I am an OOP freak, but I still
have deep respect for the fact that it is not the only way to do stuff -
even though it dominates the market today.

3. If people want a tad more "powerful"-signals and also get the idea
across that Smalltalk is mainly written in itself - then we could work
on that. The latter part was something I was thinking about yesterday,
after reading Avis's turtles-writeup for the second time. Perhaps it is
something we should have in there.

regards, Göran

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