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code to retrieve all method categories and methods under a category
by tty 30 Jan '20

30 Jan '20

Hi All. I want to dynamically build a drop-down menu in Seaside based on the instance side methods I have in a class. #MyClass has method categories: "Attributes Links Paragraph....etc" Under Method category Links are methods #testLinkCategory, testLinkExternal, testLink....etc. I have been hunting for over an hour and I see no obvious way to retrieve this info (I have found a way to get all the methods, but not the category that houses them. The code I have in mind has form: *categories := categoriesFor: #MyClass. categories do:[:cat | |methods| methods := methodForClass:#MyClass category: cat. methods do:[:m | "dynamically build my html here" ]]l* Any help much appreciated. thx -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Beginners-f107673.html

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Time To VOTE!
by Ron Teitelbaum 25 Jan '20

25 Jan '20

YOUR VOTE MATTERS! It is time to vote! We have 7 candidates for 7 board positions but your voting is still really important to show support for your board! Please take the time to look for the ballot in your email. You might find that it is in your spam folder. Don't just move it but mark the email as NOT SPAM. The email comes from Ron Teitelbaum (CIVS poll supervisor) It has the subject: *Poll: Squeak Oversight Board 2020 * and it was sent on: *1/20/2020. * Some of you may have received multiple emails. There was an email that was preventing the emails from going out to everyone. You only need to vote once and the system will only allow you to vote one time. If you have any questions or can not find your ballot please let me know. I can send it to you again. The voting goes on for 2 weeks to make sure everyone has time to vote. The election will end on Tuesday 4th of February 2020 4 PM (21.00 UTC) Please don't wait until the last minute to vote do it now while it is on the top of your email! Thank you everyone for your participation! We have a great community and terrific candidates for the Squeak Oversight Board! All the best, Ron Teitelbaum

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Re: [Newbies] code to retrieve all method categories and methods under a category
by Thiede, Christoph 20 Jan '20

20 Jan '20

[resent due to attachment limit, sorry for the delay!] Hi Timothy, not sure if your question has already been answered, but maybe this approach can help you in general to find answers to problems like these. Let's dive into some reverse engineering tools of Squeak! First, start a normal System Browser and open the halo on the message category list: [cid:e247e584-4759-42ff-a8f0-f53590827037] Then open its debug menu by clicking the wrench icon and choose "browse action code": [cid:b3e7c197-afce-47e1-8b0c-1ca915e3b728] And you get the method which the list is configured to call in order to get its contents: [cid:e0c18a28-1a14-46b2-8778-a7cd280bba87] [cid:6f42ff60-fbd8-4368-93a1-98e507f1ec6f] By selecting #rawMessageCategoryList and pressing <cmd>m, you also get the second screenshot where you can see that your desired method is named #categories. Select #classOrMetaClassOrganizer and press <cmd>m again to find out where the organizer comes from: [cid:a8efb7da-3286-4c44-a2be-35891b6aec32] Okay, this is stored as an instance variable, but how is it set? Right-click the message from the list and choose "assignments..." (you can also do this in any class browser, btw). Next, select classOrganizer from the list. [cid:92bd22b3-618e-4214-beed-378328dbadc1] And you will find: [cid:37b7bac7-e643-4145-ba08-f25172e74920] So your script might look like this: MyClass organization categories. I hope this might help you to answer future questions! And please forgive me if I told you something you already knew :-) Have a nice time with Squeak! Best, Christoph ________________________________ Von: Beginners <beginners-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von tty <gettimothy(a)zoho.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 20:26 Uhr An: beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Betreff: [Newbies] code to retrieve all method categories and methods under a category Hi All. I want to dynamically build a drop-down menu in Seaside based on the instance side methods I have in a class. #MyClass has method categories: "Attributes Links Paragraph....etc" Under Method category Links are methods #testLinkCategory, testLinkExternal, testLink....etc. I have been hunting for over an hour and I see no obvious way to retrieve this info (I have found a way to get all the methods, but not the category that houses them. The code I have in mind has form: *categories := categoriesFor: #MyClass. categories do:[:cat | |methods| methods := methodForClass:#MyClass category: cat. methods do:[:m | "dynamically build my html here" ]]l* Any help much appreciated. thx -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Beginners-f107673.html Smalltalk - Squeak - Beginners | Mailing List Archive<http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Beginners-f107673.html> forum.world.st Squeak - Beginners forum and mailing list archive. This list is the place to ask all the "simple" questions you as a newcomer to squeak always wanted to ask. _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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Squeak Oversight Board Election 2020
by Ron Teitelbaum 19 Jan '20

19 Jan '20

Hi All, It's that time again. Time to raise your voices and elect your leaders! Can you believe it's been a year already? It's a time for you to stand up, help your community and volunteer to serve! Squeak wants you! Every year we elect the SOB (Squeak Oversight Board) consisting of seven members from our community. The current board members are: 1. Bert Freudenberg 2. Craig Latta 3. Tim Rowledge 4. David T. Lewis 5. Marcel Taeumel 6. Chris Muller 7. Ben Coman For more info on the board please see: https://squeakboard.wordpress.com/our-mission/ Everything about the election, including schedule and more, can be tracked here: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6636 Now until Monday 20th of January 3 PM (20.00 UTC): Nominations of SOB members and campaigning! Candidates should nominate themselves and start their campaign on the squeak-dev mailing list. Or if you nominate someone else, make sure that person really wants to run. :) I will not put anyone on the candidate list until that person makes it known on squeak-dev that he/she intends to run. During this period, the candidates should ideally present themselves on squeak-dev, unless they have already done so, and the community can ask questions. I encourage you to reach out to potential candidates, people that are active in the community and represent your views, and ask them to run. Some people will not run without encouragement. Also, I know that some people wait to the last minute to run for the board to see if others will run but please consider getting this year off to a faster start and just jump right in! The schedule and process are as follows: Now until Monday 20th of January 3 PM (20.00 UTC): Nominations of SOB members and campaigning! Monday 20th of January 2020 3 PM (20.00 UTC): Candidate list is finalized. Monday 20th of January 2020 4 PM (21.00 UTC): Online election starts. Tuesday 4th of February 2020 4 PM (23.00 UTC): Online election ends. Results will be announced immediately after the election ends. The voting period is two week long and ballots are sent out via email. And how do you end up on the voter list? See below. :) IMPORTANT: New voters will NOT be added once the election is started. You MUST try to get on the voter list before the 20st of January 2020 or you will NOT be able to vote. If your Email has changed please try to make sure it is changed on the list of voters before the election starts. -------------------------- If you were invited to vote last year you are already on the voter list, no worries! If you are a new Squeaker and wish to vote you should do ONE of the following: * Get a "known" Squeaker to vouch for you. If a known Squeaker sends an email to voters (at) squeak.org giving me a name and email for you, then I will add you. * Send an email to voters at squeak.org yourself (and CC to squeak-dev if you like) with information/arguments showing me that you are indeed serious about voting and that you are indeed a Squeaker. When the voting period starts all voters will receive an email with instructions and a link to the voting website. If there are any further questions, just reply *in this thread* and I will closely track it - or send email to voters (at) squeak.org which points to me. ...so let's get on with it! All the best, Ron Teitelbaum

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Two ss3's?
by Sean P. DeNigris 17 Jan '20

17 Jan '20

Are http://ss3.gemtalksystems.com and http://ss3.gemstone.com mirrors or different systems? ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Beginners-f107673.html

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Re: [Newbies] Beginners Digest, Vol 156, Issue 5
by MARK MILLER 17 Jan '20

17 Jan '20

I've gotten some positive results by querying #packageInfo for a class, such as String: (String packageInfo referenceForMethod: #alike: ofClass: String) category. --> #comparing The above will give you the method category for #alike: inside of the String class. packageInfo returns a reference to a PackageInfo instance. The reason it references the class twice in the above example is you can also query for an array of methods (using a different method) for the entire protocol (up the inheritance hierarchy). So, you probably want to filter down to just the methods for your specific class. PackageInfo also has #actualMethodsDo: which allows you to give it a block to use, so you can do something with all or some (you test for which you want to deal with, in the block. How you do that I leave to you to investigate. :) ) of the methods inside. What you're going for is MethodReference's, which will allow you to query for their categories, using the method #category. Hope this helps. ---Mark mmille10(a)comcast.net > On January 16, 2020 at 5:00 AM beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote: > > > Send Beginners mailing list submissions to > beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > beginners-owner(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Beginners digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. code to retrieve all method categories and methods under a > category (tty) > 2. Re: Squeak Oversight Board Election 2020 (Ron Teitelbaum) > 3. Re: code to retrieve all method categories and methods under > a category (Tim Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:26:53 -0600 (CST) > From: tty <gettimothy(a)zoho.com> > To: beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: [Newbies] code to retrieve all method categories and methods > under a category > Message-ID: <1579116413715-0.post(a)n4.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi All. > > I want to dynamically build a drop-down menu in Seaside based on the > instance side methods I have in a class. > > #MyClass has method categories: "Attributes Links Paragraph....etc" > Under Method category Links are methods #testLinkCategory, > testLinkExternal, testLink....etc. > > I have been hunting for over an hour and I see no obvious way to retrieve > this info (I have found a way to get all the methods, but not the category > that houses them. > > > The code I have in mind has form: > > *categories := categoriesFor: #MyClass. > > categories do:[:cat | |methods| > methods := methodForClass:#MyClass category: cat. > methods do:[:m | > "dynamically build my html here" > ]]l* > > > Any help much appreciated. > > thx > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Beginners-f107673.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:59:00 -0500 > From: Ron Teitelbaum <ron(a)usmedrec.com> > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Cc: squeakland(a)lists.squeakland.org, Squeak Virtual Machine > Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, "A > friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about > Squeak." <beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Squeak Oversight Board Election 2020 > Message-ID: > <CAEzdQ-esxaddYvnksoqCnk1ksn8swY_EGF-oQrQNGMT5dyabmA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > HI All, > > Thank you again for everyone's participation in this years Squeak Oversight > Board election. Edgar thank you for helping encourage people to > participate! Feel free to keep that up! > > We currently have 5 candidates for 7 board seats. In the order they > announced: > > Marcel Taeumel > David T. Lewis > Tim Rowledge > Bert Freudenberg > Craig Latta > > Time is running out to announce your candidacy! Please announce soon! > There are only 5 days left. You can follow along by visiting this webpage: > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6636 > > I will not be available Saturday through Monday morning. If you wait to > announce this weekend and I don't update the webpage don't panic. I'll > make sure to include you before the ballots go out on Monday. It would be > better to announce between now and Friday! > > Also if your email has changed or you want to get on the voters list please > let me know! If you know someone that you would like to see on the board > please reach out to them and ask them to run! > > Thank you! > > All the best, > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:21 AM Craig Latta <craig(a)blackpagedigital.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hi all-- > > > > I'd like to serve on the Squeak Oversight Board in 2020 (wow, it > > really does feel like Back to the Future now ;). I'm interested in > > looking back, as we sometimes do, to plan for the 25th anniversary of > > Squeak in 2021. > > > > I've also been on a wild ride forward and to the side, with Bert's > > SqueakJS VM and the Caffeine project. They've brought me into contact > > with many interesting Smalltalk, JavaScript, and livecoding-adjacent > > technologies and communities. I want to continue hatching strange ideas > > about them with my fellow board members, and with you. > > > > Once hatched, those ideas want to grow in our collaborative spaces. > > I've been helping with the board meeting notes for some time, but we > > haven't publicized them. I'd like to know how you'd like to see them > > appear on the Squeak project blog, our mailing lists, and in our live > > systems. Whatever we come up with will need to be done communally (each > > of us is doing many other things), but I'd like to help us restart here. > > > > Another technical front I've been pushing recently is modularity > > and team development. I'd like to get some more livecoders connected > > this year. > > > > > > thanks again! > > Craig > > > > *** > > > > [|] https://thiscontext.com > > [|] https://caffeine.js.org > > [|] https://toplap.org > > > > -- > > Craig Latta > > Black Page Digital > > Amsterdam :: San Francisco > > @ccrraaiigg > > > > > > >

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Re: [Newbies] Squeak Oversight Board Election 2020
by Ron Teitelbaum 15 Jan '20

15 Jan '20

HI All, Thank you again for everyone's participation in this years Squeak Oversight Board election. Edgar thank you for helping encourage people to participate! Feel free to keep that up! We currently have 5 candidates for 7 board seats. In the order they announced: Marcel Taeumel David T. Lewis Tim Rowledge Bert Freudenberg Craig Latta Time is running out to announce your candidacy! Please announce soon! There are only 5 days left. You can follow along by visiting this webpage: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6636 I will not be available Saturday through Monday morning. If you wait to announce this weekend and I don't update the webpage don't panic. I'll make sure to include you before the ballots go out on Monday. It would be better to announce between now and Friday! Also if your email has changed or you want to get on the voters list please let me know! If you know someone that you would like to see on the board please reach out to them and ask them to run! Thank you! All the best, Ron Teitelbaum On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:21 AM Craig Latta <craig(a)blackpagedigital.com> wrote: > > Hi all-- > > I'd like to serve on the Squeak Oversight Board in 2020 (wow, it > really does feel like Back to the Future now ;). I'm interested in > looking back, as we sometimes do, to plan for the 25th anniversary of > Squeak in 2021. > > I've also been on a wild ride forward and to the side, with Bert's > SqueakJS VM and the Caffeine project. They've brought me into contact > with many interesting Smalltalk, JavaScript, and livecoding-adjacent > technologies and communities. I want to continue hatching strange ideas > about them with my fellow board members, and with you. > > Once hatched, those ideas want to grow in our collaborative spaces. > I've been helping with the board meeting notes for some time, but we > haven't publicized them. I'd like to know how you'd like to see them > appear on the Squeak project blog, our mailing lists, and in our live > systems. Whatever we come up with will need to be done communally (each > of us is doing many other things), but I'd like to help us restart here. > > Another technical front I've been pushing recently is modularity > and team development. I'd like to get some more livecoders connected > this year. > > > thanks again! > Craig > > *** > > [|] https://thiscontext.com > [|] https://caffeine.js.org > [|] https://toplap.org > > -- > Craig Latta > Black Page Digital > Amsterdam :: San Francisco > @ccrraaiigg > > >

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