From rabbit@callistohouse.org Sat Jun 10 11:36:23 2023 From: rabbit To: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Re: [squeak-dev] Re: [Board] Re: Minimum Processor for Squeak Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 11:36:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0f36c9274b114f8602d5eceea05c744d@mail.infomaniak.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1318870186334047765==" --===============1318870186334047765== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would suggest my approach, especially without heavy gaming requirements. Fi= nd your local pawn shop that does computers (out of a handful of local pawn s= hops, 1 in particular will specialize in computers and 1 in particular will s= pecialize in musical instruments) and go get a low-end laptop (& a trombone!)= $200? I tend to wipe the disk and install Ubuntu, but I=E2=80=99m a long-time Linux= lunatic. Windows does just fine. Best of luck! =F0=9F=8D=80 =E2=9D=A4=EF=B8=8F=E2=80=8D=F0=9F=94=A5=F0=9F=90=B0 On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel <[bruce.oneel(a)pckswarms.ch](mai= lto:On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 07:25, Bruce O'Neel < wrote: > Hi > > So this might be better on Squeak-dev or Squeak-beginners, but I'll give it= a shot: > > Squeak is quite light on system resources. It runs fine on a Raspberry Pi 3= with 1G of memory and a small SD Card. On startup it wants about 10% of that= 1G of memory. > > On disk it should fit well within 150 to 200meg. > > I guess this will run Windows though, right? I suspect that the overhead wi= ll be larger. Does anyone run on a small Windows system? How is the performan= ce? > > cheers > > bruce > > On 2023-06-08T23:21:49.000+02:00, stacy smith wrote: > >> Greetings Squeakers, >> >> Please have someone respond to this email since I have never programmed be= fore, and am not sure how to make sure my machine is compatible. >> >> Thanks, >> Stacy >> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 4:49=E2=80=AFPM stacy smith wrote: >> >>> Greetings Squeakers, >>> >>> I am going to purchase myself and my 11 and 13 year old niece and nephew = a cheap computer to learn Squeak. Any ideas? >>> >>> I am looking at the >>> >>> HP - Stream 11.6" Laptop - Intel Celeron - 4GB Memory - 64GB eMMC - Diamo= nd White >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Stacy Smith --===============1318870186334047765== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PC9oZWFkPjxib2R5PiAgPGRpdiBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPkkgd291bGQgc3VnZ2Vz dCBteSBhcHByb2FjaCwgZXNwZWNpYWxseSB3aXRob3V0IGhlYXZ5IGdhbWluZyByZXF1aXJlbWVu dHMuIEZpbmQgeW91cjxjYXJldD48L2NhcmV0PiZuYnNwO2xvY2FsIHBhd24gc2hvcCB0aGF0IGRv ZXMgY29tcHV0ZXJzIChvdXQgb2YgYSBoYW5kZnVsIG9mIGxvY2FsIHBhd24gc2hvcHMsIDEgaW4g cGFydGljdWxhciB3aWxsIHNwZWNpYWxpemUgaW4mbmJzcDtjb21wdXRlcnMgYW5kIDEgaW4gcGFy dGljdWxhciB3aWxsIHNwZWNpYWxpemUgaW4gbXVzaWNhbCBpbnN0cnVtZW50cykgYW5kIGdvIGdl dCBhIGxvdy1lbmQgbGFwdG9wICgmYW1wOyBhIHRyb21ib25lISkmbmJzcDskMjAwPzwvZGl2Pjxk aXYgZGlyPSJhdXRvIj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdiBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPkkgdGVuZCB0byB3aXBlIHRo 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