A good commercial smalltalk, that you can get for free, but, the free version is not licensed for commercial use, is, VisualWorks smalltalk by Cincom.  I think it looks pretty good also, on windows anyway, on anything else, it doesn't look great.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd give wxSqueak a try if you want to stick with Squeak.  There's a new version, 0.5.1 at www.wxsqueak.org, that runs as promised right out of the box on Windows.  Make sure to open the image with the provided VM if you have associated file names on Windows.  Then, go to the "Windows" Transcript "Window" menu, select "Demo," and marvel at all the work that has been done!

Rob

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Roger Thedog <jeff@gingertom.com> wrote:

I have looked at a couple of tutorials for Morphic but they are pretty low
level. Is there a guide or a framework I can look at for writing windows
that you would typically expect to see in a corporate application
environment?


Morphic is a bit ugly (visually and architecturally) for creating a corporate application. You could, in theory, do it, but I've never had fun using Morphic directly. I use ToolBuilder instead.

Like David Zmick said, wxSqueak and GTK for Squeak exist. I don't know much about them.

The best option, using Squeak, is to look at Seaside for making web-based applications. http://www.seaside.st/. Web based applications seem to be all the craze these days.

Otherwise, for a commercial application with a real GUI rather than a web-based one(*), it's probably better to use a commercial Smalltalk. http://www.smalltalk.org/ has a list of them. I've heard that VisualWorks is quite good, although other people may suggest others.

Gulik.
(*) The implication that web-based GUIs are fake is my opinion only.

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