Hi Ron,

Thanks for that - but I can only see #dataAvailable for Sockets, not for FileStream (named pipes). I think the same kind of thing is available for pipes (you can do `pipe size` to see how much data is there), but it still doesn't wait. I'm trying to avoid a busy loop waiting for the data - like this:

start := DateAndTime millisecondClockValue.
(pipe size < 32) & (DateAndTime millisecondClockValue - start < 3000) ifTrue: [
(Delay forMilliseconds 50) wait.
]
pipe size = 32 ifTrue: [
"Get data"
] ifFalse: [
"Deal with timeout"
]

The shorter the 'wait', the more responsive the code is to data arriving on the pipe, but the more CPU it will use as it spins round the loop. The longer the 'wait', the more lag it has for data coming back. That's what I'm trying to avoid by blocking on the read, but with a way to escape after some timeout.

I'm guessing the call to 'pipe next:' is a primitive, and blocks there, which is why valueWithin:onTimeout: doesn't return after the timeout, but does eventually return the correct answer. So, I'm guessing I'll have to do something like this:
Obviously there's a potential race at the end there, but the worst case is we throw away data which was returned at the last moment. Is there anything else you can see wrong with this approach?

Thanks,

Dave


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ron Teitelbaum [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dave,

See #dataAvailable  and #recieveAvailableData.

It's never good to call for data if you don't know you have any.  Better to
setup a wait for data until call instead.  

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum
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> Subject: [Newbies] Read a filestream (named pipe) with a timeout
>
> I'm using Squeak 4.2 and working on the smalltalk end of a named pipe
> connection, which sends a message to the named pipe server with:
>
> msg := 'Here''s Johnny!!!!'.
> pipe nextPutAll: msg; flush.
>
> It should then receive an acknowledgement, which will be a 32-byte md5
hash of
> the received message (which the smalltalk app can then verify). It's
possible the
> named pipe server may have gone away or otherwise been unable to deal with
> the request, and so I'd like to set a timeout on reading the
acknowledgement.
> I've tried using this:
>
> ack := [ pipe next: 32 ] valueWithin: (Duration seconds: 3)
onTimeout: [
> 'timeout'. ].
>
> and then made the pipe server pause artificially to test the code. But the
> smalltalk thread blocks on the read and doesn't carry on (even after the
> timeout), although if I then get the pipe server to send the correct
response
> (after a 5 second delay, for example), the value of 'ack' is 'timeout'.
Obviously
> the timeout did what it's supposed to do, but couldn't 'unblock' the
blocking
> read on the pipe.
>
> Is there a way to accomplish this even with a blocking FileStream read?
I'd rather
> avoid a busy wait on there being 32 characters available if at all
possible.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>
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