Am 30.06.2011 11:53, schrieb Randal L. Schwartz:
"bb" == bb  <bblochl@arcor.de> writes:
bb> onionmixer.net/extra_data/gst.pdf

You keep bring up GNU Smalltalk.

Not to be annoying, but you *do* realize this is a *Squeak* Smalltalk
newbie list.  If you want to get started with Squeak, check out the
Squeak tutorials at http://squeak.org/Documentation/
I brought up GNU Smalltalk for a good reason:
I miss that clearification concerning FloatD/FloatE/FloatQ in any documentation about squeak.
(And beside: I do not plane to make bowling or other games in Squeak! And even in Ducasses Book "Squeak: Learn Programming with Robots." numeric precision is not a topic.

Well, one might say squeak is squeak and Smalltalk is Smalltalk - certainly I know, that there are dialects of Smalltalk.

But on the back cover of "Squeak - A quick trip to Objectland" I found an intro:
"The Squeak programming language, an open and portable Smalltalk-80 implementation, ...".

And the home page of squeak remarks:
Noteworthy aspects of Squeak include:
    * A mostly Smalltalk-80 and ANSI Smalltalk X3J20 compatible language and base libraries
    * ...

So it should be legal to compare to i.e. "Draft American National Standard for Information
Systems - Programming Languages - Smalltalk" and ask about such Smalltalk-80 topics including compatibility. Ironically one can download it from the squeak wiki (wiki.squeak.org/squeak/uploads/172/standard_v1_9-indexed.pdf). So if you do not like GNU Smalltalk, read page 28 of "Draft American National Standard for Information Systems - Programming Languages - Smalltalk" instead:
"An implementation may support up to three different floating point numeric representations with
varying precision and ranges ..."

But that source does not explained why squeak does have asFlotD/E/Q as well. But that is explained in the GNU Smalltalk documentation and I am absolutely sure that that is true for Squeak as well.

I would be thankful if you give me an advice, where I should aks my questions if not at the beginners mail list?
If you want to learn GNU Smalltalk instead, I'm sure there's an
appropriate mailing list for you to join.  Please don't ask about GNU
Smalltalk here.


I did not ask a GNU Smalltalk question!  I asked a "Draft American National Standard for Information Systems - Programming Languages - Smalltalk" question concerning Aqueak and GNU Smalltalk as well. But I found an explanation in the GNU Smalltalk docu, that is missing in any Squeak docu! (I browsed all of them for FloatD/EQ!)

I do not want to learn GNU Smalltalk and I do not want to learn Squeak, but I want to learn Smalltalk- 80! (Squeak and Smalltalk-80? See above!)

If you and the Squeak Organisation do not like such questions simply remark on the home page:
"Squeak is not Smalltalk-80 and not ANSI Smalltalk X3J20 compatible!
And may be you might add: Just a Toy for Children. The Squeak homepage claims just the oposit.
And you might add: Do not bother us with Smalltalk queations, we are just gaming.

Some CS people have warned me to caution against Squeak as I told to give it a try. So you see that the Squeak reputation is not very high. With your mail you force the common broad idea that Squeak is just a gaming thingy for kiddies.

I would thank anyone very much who can point me to another free Smalltalk-80 Version - than I promise not to bother you any longer.

Regards

B. Blochl