Box-Admins March 2010

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Mailman was down, not sure why, restarted it a while ago
by Ken Causey 28 Mar '10

28 Mar '10

Just thought I should record this: I found two reports on #squeak that the mailing lists were down, apparently for some number of hours. qrunner was not running at all, I ran /etc/init.d/mailman start and it started up just fine. I looked around for any logs indicating why it didn't start back up but couldn't find anything. Ken

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Incorrect file permissions on VMs
by Casey Ransberger 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

It looks like at least the Mac VM and probably the Windows VM and the unix VMs cannot be downloaded either. While this is certainly my mistake, there's nothing at all I can do about it without write permission on the release directory. Any takers? -- Casey Ransberger

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Slashdotted again
by Casey Ransberger 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

There's an article in h-online.com about 4.0, and both squeak.org and ftp.squeak.org are down. Coincidence? Heh. -- Casey Ransberger

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Re: [squeak-dev] [ExperimentalCoreRelease] March 15 2010 - SL3dot11-9510-alpha
by Bert Freudenberg 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

On 15.03.2010, at 12:22, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: > > > > > On 3/15/10 9:22 AM, "Bert Freudenberg" <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> wrote: > >> Could you try to explain how these experiments relate at all to the 4.1 >> release? And 4.2 (first time I see that mentioned)? >> >> - Bert - > > You should read my mails.... > > It's not 4.1 at all. > > For now, is a trunk unloaded at 9371 which follow the trunk updating only > core packages. > When polished , if all agree, could become 4.2 Core. I see. You have a lot of hats it seems ;) So if these are personal experiments, maybe it would be a good idea to put them in a personal directory instead of the official download space. I'll cc the box-admins: How about we give people personal directories on squeak.org for such experiments, e.g. squeak.org/~edc ? - Bert -

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Re: [squeak-dev] is www.squeak.org down?
by Casey Ransberger 11 Mar '10

11 Mar '10

I see the same thing. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > It's down for me. The image seems to be dead (Bad Gateway). > > > Levente > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Chris Muller wrote: > >> >> >> > > -- Casey Ransberger

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Re: [Squeak 4.0] Final License Text
by Andreas Raab 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

I've tried to upload it but the 4.0alpha directory is owned by website:website and consequently I can't write to it (I'm not a member of website only updates). Cheers, - Andreas On 3/9/2010 8:17 AM, Ronald Spengler wrote: > Sorry I dropped the ball on FTP access, folks. I had assumed there > would at least be a pub dir I could push to. > > For want of access or time, I've put the file up on rapidshare; it can > be downloaded from there only 10 times. If someone wants to put this > up on ftp.squeak.org while I'm at work (laid off but there for 2 weeks > upon which severance depends,) awesome, otherwise it'll wind up > waiting another day:( > > Here's the download link: > > http://rapidshare.com/files/361110553/Squeak4.0.rc1.tar.gz.html > MD5: D95772AEE3F0084DE69A083781C8AFCC > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Ronald Spengler<ron.spengler(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't want to botch this part. Can the board provide complete, final >> license copy? >> >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Andreas Raab<andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>> On 3/7/2010 1:29 PM, Ronald Spengler wrote: >>>> >>>> So I'm spending today looking at slapping together a makefile for the >>>> 4.0 distribution files. >>> >>> Great! It also reminds me that I forgot to get back to you after the last >>> board meeting :-( I'll just put it in this message: >>> >>>> Rationale: >>>> >>>> - If I package everything up manually, and we need to change the >>>> license at the last minute (or some such thing,) I'll have to do it >>>> over again manually, which will be a time consuming pain in the arse. >>> >>> Yup. And regarding license, we have agreed at the board meeting that we will >>> have a combined Xerox, Apple, Community license. The rationale being that >>> removing copyright notices is highly questionable and since both the Xerox >>> and the Apple copyright are in the image, they should be in the license. >>> Consequently, the copyright headers should read: >>> >>> Copyright (c) Xerox Corp. 1981, 1982 All rights reserved. >>> Copyright (c) Apple Computer, Inc. 1985-1996 All rights reserved. >>> Copyright (c) The individual, corporate, and institutional contributors who >>> have collectively contributed elements to this software ("The Squeak >>> Community"), 1996-2010 All rights reserved. >>> >>>> I'm assuming that I'll be able to depend that it's trivial for a >>>> box-admin to create a copy of the directory on the server and then >>>> drop the following files into their respective locations, removing the >>>> old versions, is this correct? (Anyone on the box admins list want to >>>> join the release team for this one task? Is there someone else with >>>> credentials and permissions, if not? I'd really rather not futz with >>>> the FTP server if I don't have to.) >>> >>> Yes, it's trivial. I think pretty much all of us have credentials and could >>> do it. And if I would've thought of it, I would have asked you to send Ken >>> your SSH key so we can get you access. But I'd be happy to do it, I should >>> be available for the rest of the day. >>> >>>> Note that I've dropped the build number from the file names, as >>>> (unless there's something I don't know) we're only going to ship this >>>> thing once, and we shouldn't need to patch the image at all. Fixes can >>>> happen in trunk. Anyway, ditching the build number makes the dreary >>>> zipping and such agnostic to what's in the image, and that saves me a >>>> bit of time. >>> >>> Sounds fine. >>> >>>> These are the files that I intend to deliver. If I've missed anything, >>>> please let me know ASAP. >>>> >>>> * README >>>> * Squeak4.0-basic.zip >>>> * SqueakV40.sources.gz >>>> * Squeak4.0mac.zip (mac) >>> >>> The mac usually has a hyphen, too (Squeak4.0-mac.zip). Also, if you're not a >>> Mac person, do we need a Mac user to zip this up properly to ensure correct >>> permissions etc? >>> >>>> * Squeak4.0-basic.zip (unix) >>>> * Squeak4.0-win32.zip (windows) >>>> >>> >>> Sounds all great. Perhaps add a LICENSE file? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ron >> > > >

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Re: [Squeak 4.0] Final License Text
by Bert Freudenberg 09 Mar '10

09 Mar '10

On 09.03.2010, at 17:28, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>>> "Ronald" == Ronald Spengler <ron.spengler(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Ronald> Sorry I dropped the ball on FTP access, folks. I had assumed there > Ronald> would at least be a pub dir I could push to. > > Ronald> For want of access or time, I've put the file up on rapidshare; it can > Ronald> be downloaded from there only 10 times. If someone wants to put this > Ronald> up on ftp.squeak.org while I'm at work (laid off but there for 2 weeks > Ronald> upon which severance depends,) awesome, otherwise it'll wind up > Ronald> waiting another day:( > > Ronald> Here's the download link: > > Ronald> http://rapidshare.com/files/361110553/Squeak4.0.rc1.tar.gz.html > Ronald> MD5: D95772AEE3F0084DE69A083781C8AFCC > > For things less than 100MB, there's always drop.io. Very slick. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion But getting access to the download space is probably a matter of minutes, no? I think you just need to send along your ssh pub key ... - Bert -

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Re: [Squeak 4.0] Final License Text
by Ken Causey 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 00:03 -0800, Ronald Spengler wrote: > I don't want to botch this part. Can the board provide complete, final > license copy? I really don't feel we should be discussing this privately. Is the intent to get something packaged up ASAP and let the community check it out and comment afterwords? If we actually plan to release on the 15th it is getting down to short time. Ken

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Re: [Squeak 4.0] Final License Text
by Andreas Raab 08 Mar '10

08 Mar '10

On 3/8/2010 12:03 AM, Ronald Spengler wrote: > I don't want to botch this part. Can the board provide complete, final > license copy? Sure, here you go. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Squeak License Information: Copyright (c) The individual, corporate, and institutional contributors who have collectively contributed elements to this software ("The Squeak Community"), 1996-2010 All rights reserved. Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE. Portions of Squeak are covered by the following license Copyright (c) Xerox Corp. 1981, 1982 All rights reserved. Copyright (c) Apple Computer, Inc. 1985-1996 All rights reserved. Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. See the License for the specific language governing permissions and limitations under the License. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Squeak 4.0] ! Distro files (deliverable question)
by Ken Causey 07 Mar '10

07 Mar '10

On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 13:29 -0800, Ronald Spengler wrote: > I'm assuming that I'll be able to depend that it's trivial for a > box-admin to create a copy of the directory on the server and then > drop the following files into their respective locations, removing the > old versions, is this correct? (Anyone on the box admins list want to > join the release team for this one task? Is there someone else with > credentials and permissions, if not? I'd really rather not futz with > the FTP server if I don't have to.) Yes I can take care of it. But it's similarly trivial (and customary for that matter) for the release team leader(s) and possibly other team members to be given access to the 'updates' account on the server which is in turn given write access to relevant release directories in the FTP site so you can do it yourself. Ken

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