On 12/15/2015 10:02 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 05:00:12AM -0500, Robert Withers wrote:

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It was suggested to me that I write to the list and raise the question about cryptography being included in the base image. Really I have 3 questions I would ask you all:

1. is it desirable to include cryptography?
2. is it feasible to include cryptography?
3. what is the time frame for including cryptography?

I'm not sure whether it is a good idea to include it in the base image, versus maintain it in an external package that can be easily loaded from SqueakMap. Either way, I think we should get it updated on SqueakMap first so that more people can (and hopefully will) load it in their images, run the tests, and get experience with it. FWIW, I personally tend to favor maintaining packages externally in cases where we have an interest in supporting the package on various kinds of images, such as Squeak/Cuis/Pharo.

Robert, are you in a position to update the SqueakMap entries? Currently they are "crypto", "Cryptography", and "Cryptography Team Package". They are all out of date, and I'm not sure who owns which version. We should pick one of them as the official one, and update it so that it loads the latest version (Cryptography-rww.49) into a Squeak 4.6 or 5.0 image.

It is of course quite easy to load Cryptography directly from squeaksource, but there are quite a few packages in that repository that may seem confusing for someone loading Cryptography for the first time, so I think a one-click download from SqueakMap would be helpful.

Thank you for your view of these matters. I must apologize for being forgetful about SqueakMap. I have no idea if I can login or not, it has been years. I have requested a new passwd so shortly I will be in. Do we want these artifacts on SqueakSource and SqueakMap?

There are a lot of other packages in Cryptography on SqueakSource. I have cleaned up some of the packages I have in Mushroom. Some, like Blowfish, may want to be folded into the core package. Plugins will want to stay.

I suppose better documentation would help, some for Pharo and some for Squeak.

I got frustrated in the course of this as I think others did, as well. My apologies for simplifying a complex area and being to simplistic, at times.

Regards, Robert

Dave