etoys-dev May 2009

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[Etoys] Etoys Based Activity - FreeCell Sugar interactions
by Milan Zimmermann 05 Jun '09

05 Jun '09

Hi Bert, I finally did some investigation into Squeak interaction with DBus and Datastore. I went through the classes that implement the DBus and Datastore interaction. This is some great stuff! Among others, if I understand this correctly, your Squeak DBus client framework could, for example, allow to use Squeak to write a KDE or gnome panel applet? But that is an aside. As Step 1, my goal was to figure out how to save a project in Journal from a set of commands in Workspace. Going to the debugger, I found that if I open a project in Etoys, and in a workspace, and do Project current storeOnServerWithNoInteractionThenQuit. the project is saved in Journal, and on restart, Etoys must have read the Journal saved project because it shows any changes I have made in the project. It seems that the core method called from storeOnServerWithNoInteractionThenQuit that interacts with Datastore is SugarDatastoreDirectory>> #writeProject: self inFileNamed: fileName fromDirectory: localDirectory So I tried to do the the same (Project current storeOnServerWithNoInteractionThenQuit.) from a workspace in the FreeCell activity. When performed, it does write to the Journal, but upon restart, I get an exception that appears a DBus object cannot be found - picture attached. Could the difference be it because Freecell, on startup, does not setup some DBus interaction? Well in any case, I am looking for some help trying to figure this out. I was thinking about these steps I'd like to achieve: 1) Command in Workspace that saves the FreeCell project on Journal. I seem to be able to do that, but on fairly high level ( Project current storeOnServerWithNoInteractionThenQuit.). Eventually I'd like to get it done with more but lower level commands. 2) Sure and understood way to open the saved Journal Project in FreeCell. (So far within Etoys it seems to work, but I have little understanding of it. In FreeCell it does not) 3) A command or set of commands in workspace, which wil allow to Rename the FreeCell project (and save on Journal under the new name) 4) Ability to start using the black Launcher ribbon on top, with the standard Etoys project name a project stop widget that would call the commands from 1 and 2. . 5) More interaction such as copy/paste on Journal Do these goals and order make sense? I will try to maintain a blog about what I am playing with. http://mzimmerm.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-install-and-run-sugar- activity.html I am unfortunately frustratingly slow and sometimes fail to respond for a long time, combination of lack of time and experience in this area (Squeak/DBus/Sugar), but will keep going... Appreciate any help. Milan

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Re: [Etoys] graphical imports
by Angel Arias 01 Jun '09

01 Jun '09

thank you bert! normally, i use file dialog to import images into ImageImports. this way i know that graphical imports is the place where i can find the collection of images that i use in my projects. about better ways to do that... i'm all ears all the time! thanks again, bert! ángel.

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[Etoys] graphical imports
by Angel Arias 31 May '09

31 May '09

hiya all! how do i access graphical imports [the global repository ImageImports] when the eToyFriendly option is on? thank you very much! angel.

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[Etoys] Connect two or more eToys Worlds
by Mauro Esposito 25 May '09

25 May '09

Hi, my query is: I want to connect two (or more) laptops to interact each other. I don't know if it is possible, but I found an option called "Telemorphic" and I think that it could be useful for my idea. The problem is that I can't find out the way it works. I want to share the same "world" to develope i.e. multiplayer games or some like that.. I tried to connect one laptop to the other (I have a LAN) using the network IP (192.168.0.100 or 192.168.0.101) but I got an error. The Transcript showed: My address is 192.168.0.100 Remote hand theOtherPc waiting for a connection... Connecting to remote WorldMorph at and the exeption is raised in the method primGetNameInfo: socketAddress flags: flags <primitive: 'primitiveResolverGetNameInfo' module: 'SocketPlugin'> flags == 0 ifTrue: [^self primGetNameInfo: socketAddress flags: SocketAddressInformation numericFlag]. self primitiveFailed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< HERE Anyway, on the top right corner appears a cursor and the name I put on the Telemorphic dialog (theOtherPc) in blue color. But I can't understand how it works! I think the connection is not really established... I hope u can understand me, I'm from Argentina so I don't speak english very well.. Thank you.

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Re: [Etoys] [squeak-dev] Q: Contributing to Squeak
by Séverin Lemaignan 18 May '09

18 May '09

Hello! >> Will Etoys ever merge into mainline Squeak (say in Squeak 4.0). > > Not in 4.0 yet. But in the long term I hope that Squeakland Etoys will again > at least share a base with the squeak.org release, and possibly even be one > flavor of it. Ideas welcome. Concerning this merging aspect: I was last Saturday doing workshops to present Squeak to teachers of the Toulouse region, in France. While I'm a Squeak user since some years now, I decided this time to use the Etoys 3.0 image on normal Ubuntus, to "see" how teachers would react. The result is clear: Etoys is *much* simpler to use for teachers than Squeak 3.10. Bigger icons, a lot of things useless for end-user removed, much harder to "mess" the image with unexpected windows everywhere, a lot of extremely relevant examples of projects, etc. And translations in a lot of language are available. I will probably promote from now on this Etoys image amongst the teachers. So my questions are: - what is today the focus of the main Squeak images? education? research? is it meant to stay in developer hands? - what is the mid-term vision? merging with Etoys? - where should I contribute, as someone mostly interested in a concrete use of Squeak with the kids? Greetings, Severin

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[Etoys] etoys.pot format incompatible against the latest Pootle?
by Korakurider 17 May '09

17 May '09

Hello. I noticed recently format errors came into etoys.po on pootle. (1) Original Japanese PO have been like this for long. (no error) ----- from here ---- #: Morphic-Worlds,PasteUpMorph>>checkCurrentHandForObjectToPaste msgid "Hand is holding a Morph in its paste buffer:\\" msgstr "" #: System-Support,Project>>decideAboutCreatingBlank: msgid "I cannot locate the project\\" msgstr "" ----- to here (2) when I noticed the errors: ----- from here ---- #: Morphic-Worlds,PasteUpMorph>>checkCurrentHandForObjectToPaste msgid "Hand is holding a Morph in its paste buffer:\\" " msgstr "" #: System-Support,Project>>decideAboutCreatingBlank: msgid "I cannot locate the project\\" " msgstr "" ----- to here (3) Things went worse when I submit translations from pootle screen: ----- from here ---- #: Morphic-Worlds,PasteUpMorph>>checkCurrentHandForObjectToPaste msgid "Hand is holding a Morph in its paste buffer:\\" " " " msgstr "" #: System-Support,Project>>decideAboutCreatingBlank: msgid "I cannot locate the project\\" " " " msgstr "" ----- to here (4) I manually edited the PO as (1) and uploaded to Pootle. No error. (and I noticed people did this fix for some language) (5) Submitting translation from pootle screen broke POT again as (2)... I am wondering that formatting of quotation/escape in etoys.pot is wrong or the latest version of pootle doesn't like. Does anyone see root cause of this? thanks in advance. /Korakurider

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[Etoys] Squeakland Spring Newsletter
by Rita Freudenberg 16 May '09

16 May '09

Hi everyone, our spring newsletter is out! If you aren't subscribed, you can read it here: http://squeakland.org/news/newsletter/web.jsp?id=10 If you'd like to subscribe, click here: http://squeakland.org/subscribe/ Greetings, Rita

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[Etoys] Quick testing of Etoys on Windows7
by Korakurider 14 May '09

14 May '09

Hi all. As Rita is trying to run Etoys on Windows7 (discussed in squeak-dev), I also tried it :-) I had to make small twaek on installer script; It checkes windows version and change file layout and replace some file (browser plugin). The trick was Win7 has its own version number "6.1" that the script was't aware of, (Vista is 6.0). Win7 is very similar to vista, so I made the script do same stuff for win7. With modified installer, Etoys is installed successfully, run without gotchas during making security key, run in IE8 (without protection mode though). This is just result quick testing.,, I will test it extensively. How can I contribute the modified scripts? /Korakurider

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[Etoys] Imminent Release 8.2.1
by Bert Freudenberg 08 May '09

08 May '09

On 08.05.2009, at 02:38, Adam Holt wrote: > does http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/8.2.1 look adequate to > people? Etoys is updated from 3.0.2153 in 8.2 to 4.0.2205 in 8.2.1 (build 802). Do we need to add anything about this to the release notes? This is primarily targeted at Uruguay, who I think are even upgrading from a much older build (656 according to the wiki, which had etoys-2.2.1796): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys#Version_history - Bert -

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[Etoys] A Favor
by Chris Cunnington 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi I'd like to ask a favor of the members of the Etoys list. I've created a website project at http://www.smalltalktelevision.com If you have a moment I'd like some people to visit it and go to the host page. There is an Etoys project on that page. As people, I expect, have the Etoys plugin installed, you can tell me how its running in your browser. I've got it running fine on my computers at home. I can't install the Etoys plugin at a net cafe, so I'd like to know if people are seeing exactly what I'm seeing. I won't tell you what the project is, though you've certainly seen it before. If people could post what they're seeing here, I'd appreciate it. I have also created a five minute Flash video at the site, video number eighteen, on the lessons page. It shows how a person with or without an OLPC can put an Etoys project online using Seaside. I'd also be very interested in peoples' views of what that video is telling them. With that, though, there is a catch. You'd have to register for the site's free ten day trial. If you wanted to register one day and then unsubscribe with PayPal the next, that'd work fine. At any rate, I've created a web project with some use of Etoys, and if you'd visit that'd be great. If you have better things to do, I certainly understand. Thanks Chris

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