--- El jue 9-jul-09, Keith Hodges keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk escribió:
Our target audience is not the end users, or even the individual programmer, it is the builder of interesting customised images, so they would be capable of using a less than single click solution.
If this is the case then the builder of the customised image will have detailed knowledge of how he configured the image he published, and the update stream might be useful to him for passing on emergency fixes to his own users.
Keith
I think we need more people doing Squeak , not less people. Maybe it's me , but frankly i don't understand why we waste time and do not have nothing useful for another person who not was Keith.
I can't wish start again Formula One tales, but now Squeak bacomes like this days Formula One.
Because wrong polythics and unclear rules most powerfuls teams like Ferrari, BMW, McLaren , Toyota was behind newcomers less powerful teams.
So SOB take actions now.
I continue working in the SqueakLightII and MinimalMorphic images. This days i learning a lot from EToys 4.0 and Cuis. Also from John on Ipod related stuff.
Claim having the most advanced Squeak and have videos to prove it. Do not claim is suited to all, free of bugs or being good Smalltalk. Tryng to synch with any Andreas decide.
Meet me on irc or in Skype as edgardec.
Edgar
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edgar De Cleene wrote:
--- El jue 9-jul-09, Keith Hodges keith_hodges@yahoo.co.uk escribió:
Our target audience is not the end users, or even the individual programmer, it is the builder of interesting customised images, so they would be capable of using a less than single click solution.
If this is the case then the builder of the customised image will have detailed knowledge of how he configured the image he published, and the update stream might be useful to him for passing on emergency fixes to his own users.
Keith
I think we need more people doing Squeak , not less people.
I re-read my posts to check that I did not say anything about less people using squeak.
My point is that different users use different images, far more than in the past.
I used to produce a Seaside-Magma-Pier image, this had a few users, but the effort needed to maintain it and keep it up to the latest specification is too much, since all three packages were moving targets.
We live in a world where seaside users pick up the seaside one click image, developers may look to the -dev and -web images. You yourself have developed a fun image, and this week I intend to release a BeachSeaside and BeachPier image.
Maybe it's me , but frankly i don't understand why we waste time
But Edgar have you ever read any of my suggestions/encouragements and tried applying them?
For example I suggested that you might like to use Sake/Packages/Universes to define the -fun image, in the same way as Damien has to define the dev image.
and do not have nothing useful for another person who not was Keith
Quite the opposite, all of the work I have done is useful to others. Perhaps you are looking in the wrong place since, much of it is in loadable packages.
Because wrong polythics and unclear rules most powerfuls teams like Ferrari, BMW, McLaren , Toyota was behind newcomers less powerful teams.
I continue working in the SqueakLightII and MinimalMorphic images. This days i learning a lot from EToys 4.0 and Cuis. Also from John on Ipod related stuff. Claim having the most advanced Squeak and have videos to prove it. Do not claim is suited to all, free of bugs or being good Smalltalk. Tryng to synch with any Andreas decide.
Have you ever heard the saying "too many cooks spoil the broth"
Meet me on irc or in Skype as edgardec.
Edgar
Keith
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