Hi all,

Programming in the large with 50 or 200 programmers...
This discussion illustrates that we have moved a long way from Alan Kay's vision of the Dynabook; "... a laptop personal computer for children of all ages". A personal computer that contains my personal data. Data that I own and manage with personal programs, some of them written by me. Smalltalk was targeted to be the software system for the Dynabook. A single programmer, often myself.

I have followed this list for some years now, and I miss greater interest in the ultimate end user of the software; the human. I am working with many others on a paradigm that puts the end user in the driver's seat. A paradigm based on objects (not classes) for mental models that are shared and understood by end users and programmers alike. A paradigm that models the realization of use cases. A paradigm that leads to models that can be faithfully implemented in software to ensure that there will be no surprises.

The Squeak environment is essentially based on objects and is an ideal starting point for implementing new paradigms. The Squeak programming environment has to be extended with facilities for describing how ensembles of objects interact to achieve a common goal. It's easy to do in Squeak. So why not?

More at fullOO.info.

Cheers
--Trygve

On 2012.01.28 16:46, Janko Mivšek wrote: 
Hi guys,

Ralph Johnson in his InfoQ interview made an interesting observation:

2:55 minute: "Smalltalk made an fundamental error ... image ... you can
build something with 4-5 people what 50 people can build in Java, but if
you take 200 people in Java ... it is really designed for small systems
...  "

Are we because of the image really destined for relatively small
projects and small systems (of Java 50 people project size)?

Are we really not able to scale to bigger projects/systems because of that?

Ok, there are few exceptions of course (JPMorgan, OOCL, ..), but still...

[1] http://www.infoq.com/interviews/johnson-armstrong-oop

Best regards
Janko

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