squeakland May 2003

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importing exe files
by Shalabh Raizada 31 May '03

31 May '03

Hi all, Can we import an exe file generated by any application other than squeak into squeak? How can i do it? thanx, shalabh. _________________________________________________________________ Race along with NK. The fastest Indian http://server1.msn.co.in/sp03/tataracing/index.asp Feel the thrill!

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by Shalabh Raizada 26 May '03

26 May '03

Hi, How can i embed new fonts in squeak. the fonts are ttf. thanks, shalabh. _________________________________________________________________ Want free fuel? Get IOC Citibank card. http://server1.msn.co.in/msnleads/citibankcards/ioc.asp Drive your dreams!

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Re: [Squeakland] Current image to use?
by Christopher Sawtell 25 May '03

25 May '03

On Tue, 20 May 2003 03:20, Naala Brewer wrote: > Hi everyone, > > What is the best current squeak image to use to create new projects and/or > interactive exploratory scaffolding? I use this one on Linux. chris@liberty chris $ squeak -version 3.4-1 #1 XShm Thu Mar 13 22:24:42 NZDT 2003 gcc 3.2.1 Squeak3.4 of 1 March 2003 [latest update: #5170] Linux liberty.localnet 2.4.20-xfs_pre6 #1 Sat Mar 8 20:42:23 NZDT 2003 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux It appears to work pretty well. > Does the Squeakland plugin image now > have the full capabilities that a Squeak image from "Squeak.Org" has? Unfortunately not. I am aware that the beautiful TrueType variable font stuff is missing. There are probably other features which have been removed in the interests of image file size and simplicity for the tyro user, but I don't know what they are. > Or is it still best to create baseline lessons and explorations in a > "Squeak.Org" Squeak image and then allow teachers/students/parents to > create off-shoot projects using the internet and the plugin image? No, the "Squeak.Org" Squeak image has more features than the plugin, so if you wish to share projects universally you have limit your projects to the plugin version. A most unfortunate limitation imho. > Finally, is the newest version of swiki servers working well with the > Squeakland plugin image and ".pr's" for accessing and utilizing squeak > projects? Apparently so. -- C. S.

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Re: [Squeakland] Has anyone played with Karel's World?
by Ned Konz 25 May '03

25 May '03

On Saturday 24 May 2003 03:19 pm, Doris Cassidy wrote: > That got me Karel's World, but I don't know why, what to do with it > when I get there, or how to do the same with other links. OK... Why is because your browser has been told to open up Squeak when presented with Squeak projects. But the web server has to tell it that a particular URL represents a Squeak project; your browser doesn't know what to do with a ".pr" file you've downloaded. What to do with it: That part is a bit thin. I'd browse the web for information on Karel the Robot. http://www.google.com/search?q=karel%20robot&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 If you're somewhat familiar with the eToys environment, you should be able to connect what you read about other versions of Karel and this one. If you aren't familiar with eToys, you should probably start with a more tutorial project. I'm sure other folks here on the list could help with that. How to use other links: Try browsing to the Super Swiki: http://www.squeakland.org:8080/super/gallery If you click on one of the screenshots it should open the project. > I wish I knew more about Squeak and how it works. -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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Re: [Squeakland] Has anyone played with Karel's World?
by Ned Konz 25 May '03

25 May '03

On Saturday 24 May 2003 05:54 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > Unfortunately no instructions. > I might be able to encourage my son, and a friend to create > something, they both need the exercise in written literacy. That would help, thanks! > Ideally, one needs to be able to use repeats and condidtionals in > the program one creates to direct Karel. True. Conditionals are a "simple matter of programming" (I think). However, eToys don't support repeats other than by starting and stopping a ticking script. Which might work, now that I think about it. The various tests would actually be quite simple to add in Smalltalk, but I wanted to show what could be done with scripting. > I remember Alan posted a > lesson on the subject to the list during February. The text of the > posting is in the Squeakland email list archive, but unfortunately > the inline images have been stripped out by the list archiving > software. Thus the archived posting is meaningless. I would be very > grateful to be able to read that posting complete with its > pictures. Could somebody be so kind as to direct me to another > instance of the posting complete with the images elsewhere? Hmm.. I see the inline images at (for instance): http://squeakland.org/pipermail/squeakland/2003-02/msg00026.html -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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Has anyone played with Karel's World?
by Ned Konz 24 May '03

24 May '03

Before I joined the list, the last eToy project I did was to make a version of the classic educational game/simulation called "Karel's World". It is a mini-environment within eToys where a robot with a limited vocabulary is taught to do interesting things. It's on the Squeakland SuperSwiki at: http://www.squeakland.org:8080/super/uploads/Karel's World.010.pr I'd be curious to get some feedback on this project. Thanks, -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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Re: [Squeakland] Has anyone played with Karel's World?
by Ned Konz 24 May '03

24 May '03

On Saturday 24 May 2003 01:40 pm, Doris Cassidy wrote: > I clicked on this: http://www.squeakland.org:8080/super.331 > then tried to download Karel%27s%20World.010.pr > which was listed as the latest version of Karel's World. > > I could not open the download. > Try this instead. It applies some magic that tells your browser what to do with such things (assuming you've installed the Squeakland plugin): http://www.squeakland.org/project.jsp?http://www.squeakland.org/uploads/Kar… -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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Multiple copies of pen trails
by Phil Firsenbaum 22 May '03

22 May '03

Kim, Stuck again! I'm working on a little project which has to do with exploring patterns in nature. It's based on a terrific book I found in the library(Patterns in Nature by Peter Stevens). Initially, I want kids to be able to explore the various ways of connecting the dots you see below. They've got to connect all the dots (using Arrowhead) so that they all link up with the center dot and any two dots connect along only one path. It turns out that there are various ways of accomplishing this and the different patterns that are created have different geometrical attributes. I had the opportunity to work with a (5th grade) class yesterday on this project and the results were interesting...kids were fascinated and most seemed really engaged. What I'd like to do next is somehow have multiple copies of the pattern of dots appear so that kids could have more than one attempt at connecting the dots without erasing previous versions. I've tried putting a (transparent) book on top of the pattern, but that doesn't allow me to have different versions on each page. I'll even settle for being able to capture each version (as an exported graphic) but that doesn't seem to work either. If I export the playfield that I'm using below the pattern of dots isn't captured! Any ideas/suggestions? Phil

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actors - shape
by Shalabh Raizada 21 May '03

21 May '03

Hi all, When I am trying to open a shape actor like sphere or box, the ground disappears and the camera points in the sky. The actor is not visible. Even when I navigate the camera i cannot locate the actor neither when i resize the sphere. This happens only with shape actors. Why?? I tried the squeakobjects file and jeff's file with the same result. Thanks and bye. Shalabh. _________________________________________________________________ Bridge gaps. Reconnect with old friends. http://www.batchmates.com/msn.asp On batchmates.com

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Hello all !
by Ned Konz 21 May '03

21 May '03

Greetings everyone, I've just joined the Squeakland list. I'm not exactly new to Squeak (I post a lot on the Squeak-dev list), but I haven't done much with educational applications of Squeak. I'm going to be playing with a few things in the near future that might interest you: * I'm going to publish a new version of the SARInstaller for 3.2 that will let you load a variety of projects that are available on SqueakMap. In particular, I'm doing this because there has been some interest in using my Connectors package in the Squeakland environment (which is based on a 3.2 image). Connectors lets you make connected drawings using any Morphs; the connections will follow the Morphs as they are moved around. I've used the Squeakland plugin and the Project Pages feature of the Comanche ComSwiki 1.2 to make live shareable drawings in a Swiki. It works great, and is lots of fun. * I will probably add some kind of gesture recognition to the eToys system. I think I'll make it so you can make a script run when a particular pen/tablet/mouse gesture has been drawn starting at a Morph that uses that Player. I've been working with Nathanael Schärli (who wrote the Genie gesture recognition system that's in Squeak) and we've made a number of improvements. * I'm interested in adding eToys support to my Connectors to let people learn about (for instance) graph algorithms using live drawings. At least, I'd add a vocabulary that would let you query and modify the Morphs at either end of a Connector, as well as to let Morphs report their incoming and outgoing connections. I may make these sets of connections work like Holders of some sort, I'm not sure (I'm not really sure how to handle the cursor and display of these). * I'd also like to come up with a version of eToys that is scriptable using some combination of statecharts and tile scripting. Anyhow, I'm pretty new to this, and if you have any interest in any of these, or any ideas, let's discuss them! Thanks, -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE

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