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Para qué usan las computadoras - What do they use the computers for
by Carlos Rabassa 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

English text follows Spanish Alguien nos hizo llegar el enlace a este video. Le había llamado la atención las pocas personas que lo vieron: Nicholas-Negroponte (OLPC Founder) Views on Measurement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKQhJ1bVA Me llama mucho la atención lo que dice a partir del minuto 5:25, cuándo le preguntan para qué usan los niños las computadoras: Los uruguayos navegar la red y para entretenimiento. En Etiopía tienden a escribir programas de computadora. En Perú mucha lectura de libros. English text follows Spanish Someone forwarded us the link to this video. The few people that watched it had called her attention: Nicholas-Negroponte (OLPC Founder) Views on Measurement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKQhJ1bVA What calls very much my attention is what he says, starting at minute 5:25, when they ask him about what do children use their computers for: Uruguayans, surfing the web and for entertainment. In Ethiopia they tend to write computer programs. In Peru they do a lot of book reading. Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay

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KIds from around the world measuring the Circumference of the Earth
by Steve Thomas 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

The Goal of the Noon Day Project <http://ciese.org/curriculum/noonday/> is to have students measure the circumference of the earth using a method that was first used by Eratosthenes over 2000 years ago. Students at various sites around the world will measure shadows cast by a meter stick and compare their results. >From this data students will be able to calculate the circumference of the earth. Click here to get to their site and register.<http://ciese.org/curriculum/noonday/> Watch the Carl Sagan video, <http://youtu.be/0JHEqBLG650> its a treat. Thanks to Ihor Charischak for pointing this out. Stephen

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Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] [NaturalMath] KIds from around the world measuring the Circumference of the Earth
by Alan Kay 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Hi Jason I finally chased it down via "Alan Kay Kyoto Symposium" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-124161889929978086 This is likely to be very frustrating because they gave me a bad wearable microphone -- it is barely understandable when I'm at the podium, and not at all when I'm moving around away from the podium mike. However, I might be able to find the material (it was done entirely using Etoys as both the presentation and demo media). The talk was sneakily about thinking ... via how the Greeks were able to transcend our messed up genetic brains and minds. To me, how they were able to get the first really accurate picture of our situation in the universe, not just of a round Earth of a certain size, but of the Earth's relation to the Moon and the Sun -- quite bypassing normal commonsense and cultural reasoning -- is one of the most thrilling episodes in our intellectual history. And, it was just there for an instant, roughly during the Alexandrian Greeks period. Cheers, Alan >________________________________ >From: Jason Rogers <jacaetevha(a)gmail.com> >To: Steve Thomas <sthomas1(a)gosargon.com> >Cc: Alan Kay <alan.nemo(a)yahoo.com>; iaep <iaep(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>; squeakland <squeakland(a)squeakland.org>; "naturalmath(a)googlegroups.com" <naturalmath(a)googlegroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:51 AM >Subject: Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] [NaturalMath] KIds from around the world measuring the Circumference of the Earth > >Where is the link? > >-- >Jason Rogers > > > >On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1(a)gosargon.com> wrote: >> Here is a link to Alan's talk, his reference to Eratostenes starts at around >> 51:50. >> Alan, do you still have a copy of the presentation? >> Stephen >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Alan Kay <alan.nemo(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> But consider a flat Earth and a low small sun directly over the well. This >>> will yield exactly Eratosthenes' result. The key here, which I've never seen >>> mentioned in any books for children, is that the Greeks had to have a very >>> good set of reasons for thinking the Earth round and the sun large enough >>> and far enough away (and they did). >>> I gave a talk on how they did this in the Kyoto Prize lecture followups in >>> San Diego in 2005. Aristarchus was one of several key figures. >>> The shame of it is that for both math and science learning, the important >>> heuristic of trying to identify all the possible cases for a result is never >>> encountered by the children (or most adults) who have read about >>> Eratosthenes. >>> Cheers, >>> Alan >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Steve Thomas <sthomas1(a)gosargon.com> >>> To: naturalmath(a)googlegroups.com; iaep <iaep(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>; >>> squeakland <squeakland(a)squeakland.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:06 PM >>> Subject: [NaturalMath] KIds from around the world measuring the >>> Circumference of the Earth >>> >>> The Goal of the Noon Day Project is to have students measure the >>> circumference of the earth using a method that was first used by >>> Eratosthenes over 2000 years ago. >>> Students at various sites around the world will measure shadows cast by a >>> meter stick and compare their results. >>> From this data students will be able to calculate the circumference of the >>> earth. Click here to get to their site and register. >>> Watch the Carl Sagan video, its a treat. >>> Thanks to Ihor Charischak for pointing this out. >>> Stephen >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "NaturalMath" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to naturalmath(a)googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> naturalmath+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/naturalmath?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP(a)lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> squeakland mailing list >> squeakland(a)squeakland.org >> http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland >> >> > > >

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Reminder: C5 2012 deadline in two weeks
by Bert Freudenberg 27 Sep '11

27 Sep '11

The 10th International Conference on Creating, Connecting and Collaborating through Computing (C5 2012) 18-20 January 2012 Playa Vista, CA USA http://www.cm.is.ritsumei.ac.jp/c5-12/ Hosted by the USC Institute for Creative Technologies http://www.ict.usc.edu Computers, networks, and other forms of technology are pervasive in our information-based society. Unfortunately, most users of this technology use it for passive consumption of information and entertainment. To evolve into a true knowledge society it is critical that we transform computer-based human activities to engage users in the active process of creating, connecting, and collaborating together. The C5 conference is for anyone interested in the use of computers as tools to develop and enable user-oriented creation, connection, and collaboration processes. Researchers, developers, educators and users come together at C5 to present new and ongoing work and to discuss future directions for creative computing and multimedia environments. We welcome the submission of theoretical and technical papers, practitioner/experience reports, and papers that bridge the gap between theory and practice or that encourage inter- and cross-disciplinary study. === Keynote Speakers === "Helping Everyone Create with Computing" Dr. Mark Guzdial Georgia Institute of Technology "C2P3: Creating and Controlling Personalisation and Privacy in Pervasive Digital Ecosystems" Dr. Judy Kay University of Sydney === Topics === C5 invites submissions of full papers in (but not limited to) the following areas: - Technology-enhanced human-computer and human-human interaction and collaboration - Virtual worlds and immersive environments - Educational environments for classroom, field work and online/distance learning - New technologies for literature, music and the visual arts - Technologies for collaborative and self-empowered learning - Multimedia authoring environments - Gaming/entertainment platforms, virtual characters, and software infrastructure - Social networks and social networking - Novel programming paradigms and languages for implementors - Scripting or visual paradigms and languages for end-users - Creating and maintaining online communities - Tools for creating/managing online services/environments - Distributed and collaborative working - Social and cultural implications of new technologies Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format via EasyChair at: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=c512 Submissions must be written in English (the official language of the conference) and must not exceed eight (8) pages. They should use the IEEE 10-point two-column format, templates for which are available at: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/cscps/home === Proceedings === A preliminary version of the proceedings will be distributed during the conference. The formal version of the proceedings will be published by the Conference Publishing Services (CPS) and sent to authors after the conference. For each accepted paper, at least one of the authors needs to attend the conference and deliver the presentation; otherwise the paper will not be included in the formal proceedings. === Dates === Submission of papers: October 7, 2011 Author notification: November 18, 2011 Camera-ready copy: December 16, 2011 Conference: January 18-20, 2012 http://people.ict.usc.edu/~lane/C5/C5-12-CFP.pdf

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Fwd: [IAEP] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades
by Carlos Rabassa 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

Begin forwarded message: > From: Andres Aguirre <aguirrea(a)gmail.com> > Date: September 21, 2011 8:09:48 PM GMT-03:00 > To: IAEP SugarLabs <iaep(a)lists.sugarlabs.org>, sugar-devel(a)lists.sugarlabs.org, devel(a)lists.laptop.org, olpc-open(a)lists.laptop.org, Comunidad ceibalJAM <olpc-uruguay(a)lists.laptop.org>, "OLPC en castellano para usuarios, docentes, v" <olpc-sur(a)lists.laptop.org>, Lorena Calvo <lobli182(a)gmail.com>, Guillermo Fernández <gfernandez1985(a)gmail.com>, María Emilia Silveira <mesilveira87(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [IAEP] Help needed for childrens with physicals limitations / ayuda para niños con discapacidades > > Hi all, I want to show you the first working prototype of mouseCAM > activity, wich is design to help childrens with physical limitations. > This activity communicates directly with the X server of the > GNU/Linux, being able to be use in the XO computer with any activity > or with the sugar system as well as any GNU/Linux with the graphic X > server system. We are working at Faculty of Engineering, UdelaR, > Uruguay in a course called NEXO with the aim of developing solutions > for childrens in a special school here in Uruguay and I am working > with Lorena, Guillermo and María Emilia to bring solutions to the > childrens that nowdays can't use the XO computer. I need help, maybe > people in this list knows about activities with very simple mouse or > keyboard interaction, that can be used in this context. Also we are > working in a turtleart plugin, in this case the children show a image > that corresponds with a block and then the corresponding block > connects with the last block in the programming area, this will be use > to develop very simple programs, like draw geometric figures or to > control the butia robot, but is a great improve for them. > > mouseCAM video: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=4FX7uf-QeZ8 > > Spanish bellow: > > Hola a todos, quiero mostrar el primer prototipo funcional de la > actividad mouseCAM, esta actividad está diseñada para ayudar a los > niños con limitaciones físicas. La actividad se comunica directamente > con el servidor X del GNU / Linux, pudiendo ser utilizada en el > contexto de la XO con cualquier actividad o con el sistema de azúcar, > así como cualquier GNU / Linux con el sistema de ventanas X server. > Estamos trabajando en la Facultad de Ingeniería de la UdelaR, Uruguay, > en un curso llamado NEXO con el objetivo de desarrollar soluciones > para los niños en una escuela especial de aquí y junto con Lorena, > Guillermo y María Emilia estoy trabajando para aportar soluciones a > los niños que hoy en dia no pueden usar la computadora XO. Necesito > ayuda, tal vez la gente en esta lista sabe acerca de actividades que > requieran interacción muy simple con el ratón o teclado, y que pueda > ser utilizado en este contexto. También estamos trabajando en un > plugin turtleart, en este caso los niños muestran una imagen que se > corresponde con un bloque y el bloque correspondiente se conecta con > el último bloque en el área de programación, esta se utiliza para > desarrollar programas muy simples, como sacar geométricas figuras o > para controlar el robot butia, pero es una gran mejora para ellos. > > video de mouseCAM: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=4FX7uf-QeZ8 > > cheers / saludos > > -- > /\ndrés > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP(a)lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

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Re: [squeakland] [IAEP] Why is Scratch more popular than Etoys?
by K. K. Subramaniam 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

On Monday 19 Sep 2011 2:27:55 AM Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > About programming for the masses, I see two educational reasons to > insist on that. The debates about programmin I encounter is usually around "how" and not "why". > A much better reason is Papert's: so the children will have an object to > think with. The idea is to learn to learn but we need a suitable way to > talk about learning strategies. Papert had a multi-modal approach to develop thinking skills in children - using large spaces, physical movement, manipulation in three- and two- dimensional spaces etc. Etoys collapses everything to a single dimension - left-to-right sequence in tiles and top-bottom in scripts. Papert's methods were more closely aligned to the way children think and act while the gap seems to be much larger in Etoys and smaller in the case of TuxPaint or Scratch. There is lot more in Etoys than in these two but that is irrelevant if children cannot cross the initial chasm. Yes, a few children may make it across the chasm on their own steam, but thinking tools should be designed to benefit 80% of children, not just the top quintile. Regards .. Subbu

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Re: [squeakland] Programming or computer science for kids
by karl ramberg 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. <jecel(a)merlintec.com> wrote: > Karl, > >> New book for kids, Lauren Ipsum, under development here >> >> http://carlos.bueno.org/ >> >> Seems interesting and I quite enjoyed reading the sample chapter. > > There is another sample at > > http://carlos.bueno.org/2011/01/tortoise.html > > The Tortoise would only be right if you could have a string with half an > atom, which isn't the case :-) > > I wonder about all the background information woven into a story that is > meant to be a first introduction to the subject. The best children's > stories have stuff that the adults can appreciate but the intended > audience doesn't get, but this is on a completely different scale. Take > a look at a similar (very short) story I wrote for a very specific > audience and how much it ruined when you need the explanations at the > end (not part of the original): > > http://www.merlintec.com/lsi/stories/deadlocks.html > > -- Jecel > > _______________________________________________ > squeakland mailing list > squeakland(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland > It seems he got full founding for this project at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/512752850/lauren-ipsum-computer-science… I look forward reading the whole book. I liked yours too Jecel. Much the same imagery. I think this kind of thinking kan give solutions to many problems faced in programming. Sometimes seeing thems as actors can make the solution to the problem seem obvious. Setting up and translating that issue in a computer is a struggle. All sorts of digressions later you can focus on the problem again, if you are lucky. Karl

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Speak, Support and Share in 5th International Conference on ICT4DE in Nepal
by SeaGate Institute of Technology 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Speak, Support and Share in 5th International Conference on ICT4DE Nov 16 - 17, 2011 http://smfon.org.np/conference/index1.php You may like International Conference on ICT4DE Speak, Show, Support, Sponsor & Share Like: http://www.facebook.com/pages/International-Conference-on-ICT4DE/17997676874 2640 Group: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/groups/5thICT4DE/ URL: http://smfon.org.np/conference/index1.php

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Programming or computer science for kids
by karl ramberg 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

New book for kids, Lauren Ipsum, under development here http://carlos.bueno.org/ Seems interesting and I quite enjoyed reading the sample chapter. This is in the line of project Euler http://projecteuler.net/ I guess. Karl

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[Fwd: Re: Programming or computer science for kids]
by mokurai＠earthtreasury.org 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

On Mon, September 19, 2011 12:47 am, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 18.09.2011, at 13:15, karl ramberg wrote: > >> New book for kids, Lauren Ipsum, under development here >> >> http://carlos.bueno.org/ >> >> Seems interesting and I quite enjoyed reading the sample chapter. > > Indeed. Quite Carrollesque. More Norton Juster and Jules Feiffer, I thought, as in The Phantom Tollbooth. The Facebook page has a pointer to Everything and More, by David Foster Wallace, which is excellent on a different level as a history of ideas of infinity. >> This is in the line of project Euler http://projecteuler.net/ I guess. > > - Bert - > > > _______________________________________________ > squeakland mailing list > squeakland(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks

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