On 24.12.2012, at 15:06, David Corking <lists@dcorking.com> wrote:

Kathleen wrote, on the developers list (*) :
I agree with Bert, "explicit saving is the better trade off".

In the Quick Tips appendix of the new I3 book, the author says that
Sugar saves automatically to the journal on exit. In the older (2011)
version of Sugar that I have, this doesn't happen. Instead there is a
Journal icon for explicit save. Should we document somewhere (in the
I3 book or elsewhere) which versions this automatic save works in, and
which it doesn't?

Can the user tell merely by looking at the icons in the toolbar?

Yes, if she sees the "stop" button, it might save automatically. It has the Sugar-standard octagonal shape with a dark square inside: 

If instead it shows a round "exit" button with a dark cross-mark on it, it won't save. This is the same icon as shown in Etoys on other platforms:


It mimics the "delete" halo handle. Also, on other UIs than Sugar, the cross is used widely as icon for closing a window.

- Bert -