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Today's Topics:

   1. Squeak Etoys and preschoolers (Leonel Morgado)
   2. Re: Please help us test "Squeakland05" (Randy Heiland)
   3. FW:  Please help us test "Squeakland05" (Randy Heiland)
   4. Re: Please help us test "Squeakland05" (Scott Wallace)
   5. Re: Please help us test "Squeakland05" (Randy Heiland)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:31:59 +0100
From: Leonel Morgado <leonel.morgado@gmail.com>
Subject: [Squeakland] Squeak Etoys and preschoolers
To: squeakland@squeakland.org
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Hi,

      I'm interested on computer programming experiences with children
aged 3, 4 and 5.
      I was unable to find documented cases of Etoys use in this age
group, but expect that there should be at least a few user stories.

      If anyone has reports, photos, or even just recollections of
such cases, I would love to hear about them!

Int?,

Leonel Morgado

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 13:32:22 -0500
From: "Randy Heiland" <heiland@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Please help us test "Squeakland05"
To: "'squeakland.org mailing list'" <squeakland@squeakland.org>
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Perhaps I'm losing my mind, but...
Today as I continue to add more pages to a 'Book' project, I paint an object
on the page, open its viewer, drag one of the assignment tiles (e.g. obj x's
position) into the page and, to my surprise, it doesn't automagically create
a script and put the assignment tile into it.  This is unlike the behavior
of the old image and, I thought, even the new image from my using it
yesterday.

--Randy

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 14:03:09 -0500
From: "Randy Heiland" <heiland@indiana.edu>
Subject: [Squeakland] FW:  Please help us test "Squeakland05"
To: "'squeakland.org mailing list'" <squeakland@squeakland.org>
Message-ID: <200508031902.j73J2fou008834@mail-relay.iu.edu>
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(oopsy, only sent to Kim the first time)

Using the new image, I created an object, created a variable for the object,
created a script with an assignment to the var, deleted the assignment tile
from the script, tried to 'remove' the var (using its menu in the viewer)
but was told it couldn't because the var was in use in a script - which it
ain't :)

--Randy

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 20:57:06 -0700
From: Scott Wallace <scott.wallace@squeakland.org>
Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Please help us test "Squeakland05"
To: "Randy Heiland" <heiland@indiana.edu>
Cc: squeakland@squeakland.org
Message-ID: <a05200f35bf173a7f00b8@[10.0.1.2]>
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Hi, Randy,

Whether or not a phrase gets automatically expanded into a new Script 
when you drop it into a container depends on what the *container* 
decides is the right thing to do.  This is governed by the "playfield 
option" named "auto-phrase-expansion", which you can see and set from 
the "playfield options" menu of the container.

By default, BookPageMorphs, which are what the pages of a "Book" 
consist of, do *not* have the "auto-phrase-expansion" flag set, which 
is why when you drop a phrase in such a container, it does not 
automatically expand into a Script.

If you want a particular BookPage or Playfield to *have* that kind of 
behavior, bring up its Playfield Options menu, find the relevant 
checkbox, and check it.  Thenceforth, it will have that behavior.

Conversely, if you should happen *not* to want that kind of behavior 
on your "desktop" (aka the "world"), you can bring up the "playfield 
options" menu for the "world" and *uncheck* the auto-phrase-expansion 
option.

Experience has proven that both alternatives are really necessary, 
and we've set the defaults the way they are (on for the World, on for 
a "Scripting Area", off for a generic Playfield, off for a Holder, 
off for a default BookPage) based on perceived needs over the years.

So... what recourse do you have?

(1)  You can set the "auto-phrase-expansion" option of your book 
page(s) to true.

(2)  Or, whenever you want a phrase to be automatically expanded into 
a script, you, simply drop the phrase on the *desktop* to get the 
script created.  Once it's created, you can pick it up and place it 
on a book-page if you wish.

(3)  Finally, if, for whatever reason, you have a bare phrase, and 
you want to get it directly converted into a new script consisting of 
that phrase, there's an option at the bottom of the PhraseTile's halo 
menu to do just that -- look for "Sprout a new scriptor around this 
phrase."

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

   -- Scott

PS:  Looking forward to seeing you in Chicago in just a few days!

At 1:32 PM -0500 8/3/05, Randy Heiland wrote: