[Newbies] Re: Can I make a window outside of the

[Casey Ransberger]

Ah. If you need more than one native window, you'll need the host window plugin. It sounds like maybe, though, you're just wanting to fill the whole Morphic world with your app?

If you're after the latter, it will help to understand how to get at the Morphic world programmatically. It's also worth knowing that the world is an instance of PasteUpMorph, so you can look up methods and such. 

Try stuff like 

Project current world explore. 
Project current world height. 
Project current world width.

I don't have squeak handy! So don't quote me on these snippets, you may have to poke around a bit. 

Hope this helps!

On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Rick H.  <cubsno1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Casey Ransberger <casey.obrien.r <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I know it's possible. I don't know that it's easy. There's a screenshot of a 
> host window working on Pharo here...
>> 
>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3862
>> 
>> I think you maybe want to google on Host Window Plugin, I can't recall off 
> the top of my head what it's called for sure, but I think that's it. What 
> happens for a lot of folks, is we get over the difference and want to be in 
> Squeak full screen all the time, because host windows don't really do much, 
> and a SystemWindow, with some effort, will do the hokey pokey and turn itself 
> around for you, I mean literally if you wanted to you could put legs on it and 
> make it dance. The sky isn't the limit with Morphic, it's lower than that, but 
> not much.
>> 
>> Another thing worth looking at in the interop department is VNC. It 
> basically lets you do a video mode connection to another machine from within 
> Squeak. In Croquet/Cobalt (and Teleplace,) people use this stuff for opening 
> up Excel spreadsheets and Web browsers from within collaborative 3d virtual 
> worlds. It's wild fun stuff:)
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Rick H. <cubsno1 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I'd like to make an operating system window, that can go outside of
>> the "world."  I found a nice Sample Image Viewer by Michael Davies.  It uses 
> a
>> SystemWindow, but it also is constrained to be within the Squeak box.  Do you
>> understand what I am thinking of?  Is it possible?
>>         Regards, Rick
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> 
> Interesting!  If it's not extremely straightforward, maybe I'm going about 
> this in the wrong way.  I'm trying to make an "application" that a person 
> could run like any other "application" on their desktop.  They wouldn't 
> necessarily even know that it's Squeak, except the window might not look 
> exactly like other operating system windows. 
> 
> But maybe people expand their morphs to occupy the whole world, and insist 
> that their morph stay on top, and call that it.  ?  
> 
>          Regards, Rick
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