[Newbies] Beginners Digest, Vol 176, Issue 3

ppadilcdx at gmail.com ppadilcdx at gmail.com
Mon Dec 19 01:43:29 UTC 2022 

For example: I tried to reply to this one which the Squeak Inbox prefilled the To: field for me with: "beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org, ppadilcdx at gmail.com". Note the space after the comma. If I delete the space the tool adds it back. If I try to send I get a debugger. If I delete the entire second email address, i.e. "beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org" then it works fine.

On 2022-12-02T13:37:57-08:00, ppadilcdx at gmail.com wrote:

> Sorry if I was unclear on the second question. Squeak Inbox asked for email and other info but did not ask me for username/password. So was wondering where do I enter that info.  I tried in InboxTalk->Settings->edit user info; but that did not ask for server info.
> 
> Thank you for the info on the icons…that was great.
> 
> Regards 
> Pete
> 
> > On Dec 2, 2022, at 1:20 PM, beginners-request at lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote:
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> >   1. Re: Newbie questio (Ron Teitelbaum)
> >   2. Re: Newbie questio (Thiede, Christoph)
> >   3. [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox Talk app (P Padilcdx)
> >   4. Re: [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox Talk app
> >      (christoph.thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de)
> > 
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 08:58:16 -0500
> > From: Ron Teitelbaum <ron at usmedrec.com>
> > To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
> > about Squeak." <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Newbie questio
> > Message-ID:
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> > Hi Pete,
> > 
> > A few things.  If you had a cascade of debuggers it is very difficult to
> > stop them.  You need to stop the process that is generating them.  There
> > are a few ways to do that. To halt the current process press Alt + . (press
> > and hold alt key then period)
> > 
> > This is highly likely to get your process but it may not.  If it looks like
> > your process you are good to go.  You can try a few times and you might get
> > lucky.  (press proceed if it is not your process).
> > 
> > Since you are able to interact with the system on the World menu select:
> > open > process browser.  You can find your process and then right click on
> > it and select debug.
> > 
> > Also your code is safe.  It is in your changes file.  From the World menu
> > select: changes > recently logged changes ... and you will find your code.
> > This works even if you kill your image (as long as you don't replace the
> > changes file).
> > 
> > Hope that helps!
> > 
> > Ron Teitelbaum
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:16 AM P Padilcdx <ppadilcdx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Christoph
> >> 
> >> I am using the 6.0 release. I was using a recursive algorithm.  I did use
> >> the menu to close all the debuggers but more kept coming.  I might have
> >> given up too early and force-quit Squeak. Just wondered if there was
> >> another magic trick.  Thank you for the prompt reply!
> >> 
> >> PS. Code was not saved due to the force-quit. But it was writing to the
> >> Transcript and from what I could deduce, that was the reason for the
> >> unlimited debugger windows with a “didNotUnderstand” at the top of the
> >> frames. Hope that makes sense.
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> Pete
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Beginners mailing list
> >> Beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 14:39:10 +0000
> > From: "Thiede, Christoph"
> > <Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
> > To: "beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org"
> > <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Newbie questio
> > Message-ID:
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> > Hi Pete,
> > 
> > 
> > if you come up with a similar situation again, please feel free to share the exact code with us that caused the situation. :-)
> > 
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Christoph
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > Von: Beginners <beginners-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von P Padilcdx <ppadilcdx at gmail.com>
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2022 06:15:45
> > An: beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Newbies] Newbie questio
> > 
> > Hi Christoph
> > 
> > I am using the 6.0 release. I was using a recursive algorithm.  I did use the menu to close all the debuggers but more kept coming.  I might have given up too early and force-quit Squeak. Just wondered if there was another magic trick.  Thank you for the prompt reply!
> > 
> > PS. Code was not saved due to the force-quit. But it was writing to the Transcript and from what I could deduce, that was the reason for the unlimited debugger windows with a “didNotUnderstand” at the top of the frames. Hope that makes sense.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Pete
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 09:56:10 -0800
> > From: P Padilcdx <ppadilcdx at gmail.com>
> > To: beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: [Newbies] [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox Talk
> > app
> > Message-ID: <111FAF59-E8B9-4FB7-A81F-2A56C42B8A60 at gmail.com>
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> > 
> > Is there a guide as to what the icons next to the methods mean. I can guess most of them, e.g. the arrows are obvious enough. But others are not so trivial.  Right now I have some methods showing a red flag - I presume there is some sort of issue but there is no  help text that I could find.  Thank you and apologies if this has been asked before.
> > 
> > Also, how do I set the required login credentials to be able to send email through the Squeak Inbox Talk app within Squeak.  All my accounts require login to send email via smtp protocol. The app did prompt for server/port/email address but without smtp login credentials it won’t be able to send the email. Thanks!
> > 
> > Regards
> > Pete
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 22:19:57 +0100
> > From: <christoph.thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
> > To: <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] [Newbie] System Browser method icon & Inbox
> > Talk app
> > Message-ID:
> > <3f3de958-eaed-4fc7-9913-bda420d97dc2 at MX2018-DAG2.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Hi Pete,
> > 
> > On 2022-12-02T09:56:10-08:00, ppadilcdx at gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> >> Is there a guide as to what the icons next to the methods mean. I can guess most of them, e.g. the arrows are obvious enough. But others are not so trivial.  Right now I have some methods showing a red flag - I presume there is some sort of issue but there is no  help text that I could find.  Thank you and apologies if this has been asked before.
> > 
> > A red flag indicates that the method contains debug code - e.g., a breakpoint, self halt, or Transcript showln: 'something'. Analogously, a blue flag stands for a method that needs your attention, e.g., if it contains self flag: #someTodo, self notYetImplemented or something else. If you would like to know it exactly, you can look this up in Behavior>>#toolIconSelector:. :-)
> > 
> >> 
> >> Also, how do I set the required login credentials to be able to send email through the Squeak Inbox Talk app within Squeak.  All my accounts require login to send email via smtp protocol. The app did prompt for server/port/email address but without smtp login credentials it won’t be able to send the email. Thanks!
> > 
> > I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. If you are trying to send a mail from Squeak for the first time, it will ask you for your email address, your mail server and port, your username, and your password. For mail server and port, you need to enter the details for the SMTP server of your email provider. You can usually google that information or ask your local administrator. Just for example, for outlook.com, the server is smtp-mail.outlook.com and the port is 587. The username is either your email address or everything before the @ (e.g., ppadilcdx). Note that in particular, Gmail further complicates SMTP access and requires you to sign in with an app password [1], so instead of your normal Google password, you would have to generate an app password for SMTP under https://myaccount.google.com/apppasswords and specify this password in Squeak.
> > 
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> Pete
> > 
> > Hope that helps!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Christoph
> > 
> > [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833
> > 
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