[Elections] Re: A concrete proposal for registering voters andconducting the elections

[Masashi UMEZAWA]

Hi,

I also think the proposed system is good in a short-term basis, but it
would be harder to maintain the voters' list if votings occur many
times.

Ideally, voters' list should be automatically created, importing SqP,
Squeak-Ja, and other community lists.

2006/1/19, Daniel Vainsencher <daniel.vainsencher at gmail.com>:
> This has the advantages mentioned below. Disadvantages of this proposal
> as I see them, compared to implementing the system proposed on minnow:
> 1. The voters list is maintained manually. This implies mistakes,
> duplicated work and the usual. The process of gathering them needs to be
> repeated before every vote or at least every so often.
> 2. The issues and proposals are maintained manually. I expect that this
> will result in the issues and proposals being determined in mailing
> lists, instead of being posted and then adjusted, with all the
> disadvantages of that medium.
> 3. If this is used as a temporary solution, then it is different enough
> from any permanent solution to create transition pain, and slow down
> adoption of a permanent solution.
>
> Overall, this proposal will allow an election to happen fast, and will
> probably delay the overall process of introducing decentralized decision
> making.
>
> So how about this - we start implementing a system, do all the required
> (non technical) parts related to the elections without specifying how
> voting will take place (just tell people to think of an order), and if
> we see the implementation of a complete voting system is delayed too
> much, fall back on CIVS.
>
> Daniel
>
> Brent Vukmer wrote:
> > Seriously though, I'm holding off on commenting in detail on Peter's
> > concrete proposal, because I'd like the team to reach a consensus
> > about it first.
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/06, Brent Vukmer <brent.vukmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I'm trying to be laid-back here and let Benjamin, Masashi, Daniel or
> >>Lex comment first.
> >>
> >>So I'll stay quiet a bit longer (cough sounds good to me cough)
> >>
> >>On 1/12/06, Peter Crowther <Peter at ozzard.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>From: [...] Peter Crowther
> >>>>Sent: 11 January 2006 23:18
> >>>>Subject: [Elections] A concrete proposal for registering
> >>>>voters andconducting the elections
> >>>
> >>>Twenty hours on and no reaction.  That has to be some kind of a record
> >>>for something specifying a system that registers candidates, registers
> >>>voters and handles the voting process.
> >>>
> >>>No comments?  Nobody willing to say "I like it", or "I like it, but..."
> >>>or "I think it sucks"?  If we don't get *some* dialogue going, we're
> >>>going to have real problems if someone decides to challenge any
> >>>mechanism we pick.
> >>>
> >>>             - Peter
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