[Seaside-dev] Current Development Environment Setup

[Johan Brichau]

As I picked up pharo7 work again after my holidays, I remember I did the pharo7 branch using Iceberg as well.
So: no metadata anymore in that branch either ;)

We can decide to redo the changes in metadatafull filetree or we can decide to drop support.

I will hold off merging in the branch (and there are some failing tests to fix first anyway).

cheers
Johan

ps: I will arrive Sunday evening but need to spend half a day at Rome airport before that. I will probably try to get some work done on Seaside at that time,
ps2: I’m always on the Slack channel

> On 6 Sep 2018, at 08:45, Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be> wrote:
> 
> Philippe,
> 
> For Seaside, I’m inclined to say we can go ahead dropping support for metadataless platforms on a new release. 
> For Grease, it has happened already :0 (but I was keeping an idea on fixing that if required).
> 
> Basically, if anyone wants to use latest version of Seaside/Grease on older platforms, it’s the supporting packages like Filetree others that require updating.
> Dale made a good point here that it should be feasible: https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/issues/334#issuecomment-342575918 <https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/issues/334#issuecomment-342575918>
> 
> However, it seems that filetree also poses issues on Windows (file names too long) and we should rather move to Tonel format. 
> Tonel also works a lot quicker checking out the repo and switching branches because of it requires far fewer files.
> 
> But I have not tried to use Tonel on Gemstone, for starters.
> So, hoping to know a bit more about this at ESUG.
> 
> cheers,
> Johan
> 
> 
>> On 5 Sep 2018, at 14:09, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de <mailto:Das.Linux at gmx.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Philippe
>>> On 05.09.2018, at 13:41, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall at gmail.com <mailto:philippe.marschall at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be <mailto:johan at inceptive.be>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 4 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall at gmail.com <mailto:philippe.marschall at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to hit the ground running at ESUG and arrive with a working
>>>> development environment for at ESUG. I'd appreciate it if somebody
>>>> could answer me the following questions
>>>> - What is the recommended Pharo Version on macOS X? I'm using
>>>> PharoLauncher to download 6.1 32 bit and ignore the warnings.
>>>> Downloading 6.1 directly results in corrupt files
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m using 6.1 64-bit (direct downloads) and 7 (via PharoLauncher).
>>>> 
>>>> Pharo 7 version of Seaside is WIP: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/tree/pharo7 <https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/tree/pharo7>
>>>> Also mind that some changes to master have not been added to develop yet: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/pull/989 <https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/pull/989>
>>>> 
>>>> - How do I checkout the code and load it into the image? My last
>>>> information was that both Grease and Seaside as FileTree repositories,
>>>> and that Grease is metadata-less. Is this still correct?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Correct, except that Grease is metadataless only for the Pharo7 package (since I did that with Iceberg).
>>>> Unfortunately, that makes it unloadable in Pharo3-4 as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Should I
>>>> check out using git and then add the Monticello repositories or should
>>>> I use Metacello? Should I use Iceberg or rather not?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Using Iceberg means: metadataless and thus we drop support for a number of platforms.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the info, that helps. Do you know which platforms that would be?
>> 
>> For Squeak deployment metadataless works.
>> For Squeak development, metadataless won't (currently) work in any version.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 	-Tobias
>> 
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