[Seaside] Database

[Adrian Lienhard]

Thanks for all your responses!

So, I will probably go for Postgres with Tantalus and for BerkeleyDB to look
at in some more detail.

Stephen: I have the time to wait some weeks. What do you do ("ChangoPVM and
database..")?

Alain:
> [...] On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus
> with postgreSQL through ODBC on Mac OS X.
> I have the project change set with all the modification if
> it could help [...]

Yes, please. This (the Postgres specific part) would probably be good to
have in Tantalus (?). I think there will be other people using this...

Adrian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alain Fischer" <alain.fischer@bluewin.ch>
To: <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Seaside] Database


Hi Adrian,

Squeak seem to have a lot of success in Bern.

On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus with postgreSQL
through ODBC
on Mac OS X. I have the project change set with all the modification if
it could help
you, but I think you must fish for what you are interested in because,
it has also
modification even for glorp. I think the code explorer is a good tool
for this.

Your team project management tool seem interesting.

Hope I see you in a nexter SqueakNic.
Alain


Le Vendredi 6 décembre 2002, à 10:11 , Adrian Lienhard a écrit :

> Hi all
>
> What kind of databases do you use for your Seaside applications?
>
> The first question for me is if to use a Relational DB or a Object DB.
> Most
> of the time I don't have much data to store. But I would also want to be
> prepared  for a project with much data and fulltext search queries.
> What's
> quite important is reliability. What would also be nice is if I could
> access
> the database from over ODBC (so it would be a RDB). Furthermore it
> should be
> accessible over the network. If a RDB then prferably Postgres
>
> What I found to be interesting (anything missing?)...
>
> O/R-Mappings:
> -----------------
> Tantalus
> (http://www.whistler.com/aboutus/index.php?inc=tantalusDocs.inc)
> maturity (from SqueakMap): "Useable by daredevils. Probably still full
> of
> bugs." So maybe not the the choice for productive apps(?)
>
> GLORP port
> maturity: "Useable but still not stable, probably has bugs."
> same as above
>
> Object DB
> -------------
> MinneStore (http://minnestore.sourceforge.net)
> maturity: "Useable by all. Bugs are rare."
> So, this seams to be interesting. Search queries..
>
> Magma
> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2665
> probably not tested in productive environments..(?)
>
> Other
> --------
> - Berkeley DB (http://www.sleepycat.com/). Plugin for Squeak:
> http://spair.swiki.net/27 from Stephen Pair
> The DB may be very good in some areas (according to the webpage..). But
> eg.
> for doing a fulltext search it's quite useless because all data would
> have
> to be loaded into the client application... And second, it can't be used
> over the network.
>
> So, I really don't know... I think to tend to Postgres and try to use
> Tantalus. On the other hand it would be probably more comfortable to
> use a
> object database.
>
> What are your experiences?
>
> Thanks
> Adrian
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