Re[2]: [Seaside] Database

[Adrian Lienhard]

Hi Pablo

You find Tantalus here:
http://www.whistler.com/aboutus/index.php?inc=software.inc
Links to other Squeak Databases are listet on the Squeak Wiki:
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/512

Adrian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pablo Iaría" <iariap@tutopia.com>
To: "Adrian Lienhard" <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Seaside] Database


> Hi all,
>
>    where can I get tantalus ?
>
>
> Thanks,
>        Pablo.-
>
> Sunday, December 8, 2002, 6:10:49 PM, you wrote:
>
> AL> Thanks for all your responses!
>
> AL> So, I will probably go for Postgres with Tantalus and for BerkeleyDB
to look
> AL> at in some more detail.
>
> AL> Stephen: I have the time to wait some weeks. What do you do
("ChangoPVM and
> AL> database..")?
>
> AL> Alain:
> >> [...] On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus
> >> with postgreSQL through ODBC on Mac OS X.
> >> I have the project change set with all the modification if
> >> it could help [...]
>
> AL> Yes, please. This (the Postgres specific part) would probably be good
to
> AL> have in Tantalus (?). I think there will be other people using this...
>
> AL> Adrian
>
> AL> ----- Original Message -----
> AL> From: "Alain Fischer" <alain.fischer@bluewin.ch>
> AL> To: <seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> AL> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:19 PM
> AL> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Database
>
>
> AL> Hi Adrian,
>
> AL> Squeak seem to have a lot of success in Bern.
>
> AL> On the persistance side, I was able to use Tantalus with postgreSQL
> AL> through ODBC
> AL> on Mac OS X. I have the project change set with all the modification
if
> AL> it could help
> AL> you, but I think you must fish for what you are interested in because,
> AL> it has also
> AL> modification even for glorp. I think the code explorer is a good tool
> AL> for this.
>
> AL> Your team project management tool seem interesting.
>
> AL> Hope I see you in a nexter SqueakNic.
> AL> Alain
>
>
> AL> Le Vendredi 6 décembre 2002, à 10:11 , Adrian Lienhard a écrit :
>
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> What kind of databases do you use for your Seaside applications?
> >>
> >> The first question for me is if to use a Relational DB or a Object DB.
> >> Most
> >> of the time I don't have much data to store. But I would also want to
be
> >> prepared  for a project with much data and fulltext search queries.
> >> What's
> >> quite important is reliability. What would also be nice is if I could
> >> access
> >> the database from over ODBC (so it would be a RDB). Furthermore it
> >> should be
> >> accessible over the network. If a RDB then prferably Postgres
> >>
> >> What I found to be interesting (anything missing?)...
> >>
> >> O/R-Mappings:
> >> -----------------
> >> Tantalus
> >> (http://www.whistler.com/aboutus/index.php?inc=tantalusDocs.inc)
> >> maturity (from SqueakMap): "Useable by daredevils. Probably still full
> >> of
> >> bugs." So maybe not the the choice for productive apps(?)
> >>
> >> GLORP port
> >> maturity: "Useable but still not stable, probably has bugs."
> >> same as above
> >>
> >> Object DB
> >> -------------
> >> MinneStore (http://minnestore.sourceforge.net)
> >> maturity: "Useable by all. Bugs are rare."
> >> So, this seams to be interesting. Search queries..
> >>
> >> Magma
> >> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2665
> >> probably not tested in productive environments..(?)
> >>
> >> Other
> >> --------
> >> - Berkeley DB (http://www.sleepycat.com/). Plugin for Squeak:
> >> http://spair.swiki.net/27 from Stephen Pair
> >> The DB may be very good in some areas (according to the webpage..). But
> >> eg.
> >> for doing a fulltext search it's quite useless because all data would
> >> have
> >> to be loaded into the client application... And second, it can't be
used
> >> over the network.
> >>
> >> So, I really don't know... I think to tend to Postgres and try to use
> >> Tantalus. On the other hand it would be probably more comfortable to
> >> use a
> >> object database.
> >>
> >> What are your experiences?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Adrian
> >> _____________________
> >> Adrian Lienhard
> >> www.adrian-lienhard.ch
> >> www.netstyle.ch
> >>
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