[Seaside] Re: seaside providers

[Germán S. Arduino]

Hi Bob:

I can't describe here all that you need, but may suggest to use the support 
services of your datacenter.

By example in EV1Servers (http://www.ev1servers.net) the docs and forums are 
really useful about the questions that you need to solve.

HTH.
gsa.
"Bob Houston" <bobh at agents.com> escribió en el mensaje 
news:A854953C-48A2-11D9-AE18-000A95CCE674 at agents.com...
> I'd like to suggest an alternative "service" that could potentially solve 
> this problem for several people on the list.
>
> I, too, have been wondering if anyone was providing hosting services for 
> Seaside apps, but after not finding any, I decided to look for an 
> affordable co-lo site, and provide my own hardware to serve my apps.  Then 
> I realized that I really don't know how to do all the configuration stuff 
> that is needed, and will need to do a fair amount of research to get my 
> server up and running.
>
> The "service" that I'm suggesting, is for someone to post detailed 
> instructions that describe how to set-up the following:
> 1.  apache server conf
> 2.  ssl support
> 3.  load balancing to multiple seaside servers
> 4.  GOODS (or other database) config
> 5.  anything else recommended for a publicly accessible seaside app
>
> I'm planning to use an Apple xserve or a rackmount Linux box to host my 
> apps.  I'd really appreciate some pointers regarding how to set this up.
>
> BTW,  I'm new to the seaside list, and may have missed this info.  If so, 
> please fill free to email me off-list.  Also, I've configured apache 
> (mod_proxy) to forward to my seaside app, but it took me a while to find 
> the necessary info.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> On Dec 7, 2004, at 12:36 PM, C. David Shaffer wrote:
>
>> Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>
>>> We thought about that a while ago to set up a professional seaside 
>>> hosting here at netstyle.ch. The idea is to have a pre-installed system 
>>> as it is typically used for a Seaside app. This would include GOODS, 
>>> Postgres, ssh access, VNC and Apache for example. The 
>>> infrastructure/bandwidth etc. is in place, what we would have to set up 
>>> are some security restrictions.
>>
>> Yes, putting together a setup like this isn't difficult.  What's hard is 
>> making it usable remotely.  I have a server on a T1 but VNCing from my 
>> home via our Cable internet provider can be very laggy at times.  I 
>> really can't say this enough times: "If you don't have physical or LAN 
>> access to the server then be ready to build administrative interfaces and 
>> develop a deployment technique which ensures no or few errors."  On the 
>> other hand it isn't that hard to set it up and test it with one or two 
>> customers.  I just wouldn't try to sell it as a "general Seaside 
>> solution" without a lot of tools added.  LiveWire looks like a very 
>> promising part of such a toolset.
>>
>> David
>>
>> -- 
>> C. David Shaffer
>> http://www.cs.westminster.edu/~shaffer
>> http://www.shaffer-consulting.com
>>
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