Hi, I've moved Gardner over to latest Seaside. Nothing official yet (so not on SM), but it works fine for basic Wikis. Code on http://tai42.xs4all.nl/~cg/mc Janus is updated as well but I haven't tested it. I'm going to simplify the thing anyway, when that's done and www.tric.nl runs on latest Gardner I'll do an SM release. Regards, Cees