[Seaside] Re: [ANN] Seaside Tutorial

[Danny Collins]

I'll let you know as soon as I get through all of the ones you already have
posted :) THANKS!

I have been learning Squeak (and therefore smalltalk) and Seaside for about
2 weeks. I have read some papers and I have read some of Mark Guzdials book
on Squeak and I have read just about everything on seaside.st. And as more
links show up on this website I try to consume those as well :)

One of the harder things for me is figuring out HOW to use the Squeak
environment for development - that and wrapping my head around a Multiple
Control Flow Contrinuations Base Web Application Framework :) A challenge
that I am facing now is figuring out what Seaside can provide - as a
Framework - and what I - as an Application developer -  must provide.

I have been doing Java Based web Application development for about 4 years.
So this is a slightly different way of thinking for me - but it's really
enjoyable :)

Danny



On 3/9/06, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse at free.fr> wrote:
>
> Danny
>
> do you have some wishes for missing videos or things that you would
> have loved to know before :)
> learning them by yourself.
>
> Stef
>
> On 9 mars 06, at 16:45, Danny Collins wrote:
>
> > thank you so much for sharing that link to your videos (both of you).
> >
> > I am not averse to reading and I have been reading anything I can
> > get my hands on regarding Squeak and Seaside - including this list
> > and it's archives as well as the many sites that have intros and
> > howto (including many on this list) but for an absolute neophyte to
> > this environment you have no idea what it means to be able to SEE
> > you use Squeak and Seaside.
> >
> > I have watched two of your videos and have learned at least 10 new
> > things!!!! It really helps connect what I am learning by reading to
> > what I want to do with the tools! I will be watching the rest of
> > them as soon as I can!
> >
> > With heartfelt thanks
> > Danny
> >
> > On 3/9/06, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse at free.fr> wrote: Hi
> >
> > this is really cool. If you want to use the videos I did and
> > incorporate them feel to take them.
> > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/Videos/
> > I hope to do some more soon.
> >
> > Stef
> >
> > On 8 mars 06, at 20:09, Wilkes Joiner wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/8/06, tim Rowledge < tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Damn amazing. Add a soundtrack to describe what you're doing, fix a
> > >> few rather glaring spelling mistakes (Appliction in a menu, 'Are
> > your
> > >> sure' in the destroy confirmation, etc) and Robert is your father's
> > >> brother. Love it.
> > >
> > > For the joke, I was going to use the soundtrack from the RoR movie,
> > > but it would kill the opportunity to show off the really cool Squeak
> > > stuff, like the debugger and halos.
> > >
> > > I blame the spelling mistakes on Java.  After a full day of Java, my
> > > brain is mush from excessively beating my head against wall.
> > >
> > >> While we're on the subject of movies, anyone with the capability
> > and
> > >> some time to spare might like to make some movies of basic
> > tutorials.
> > >> Start from use of the mouse, menus, halos and work up from there.
> > >> People these days seem to like moving stuff much more than all that
> > >> effort of reading.
> > >
> > > I did something like that a while back (almost a year).  It could
> > use
> > > an update with some audio.  It is much easier to communicate this
> > > stuff with a movie rather than prose.  The goal was to get a
> > developer
> > > from zero to writing a class in as short amount of time as possible.
> > > It could be extended to cover more aspects of the environment.
> > >
> > > http://wilkesjoiner.com/UsingSqueak.html
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wilkes
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