[Seaside] Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 13

Ted Wrinch ted.wrinch at gmail.com
Fri Sep 9 13:04:23 UTC 2011 

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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:17:36 +0100
From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Seaside] Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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What is Soup?

Nick

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Hah, it's funny that I'm such a newbie and being asked to explain this! It's an XML parser; you can load it up, point it to a page on the web and it'll load up a bunch of XML nodes for you. That's as far as I got with it but I believe there maybe hooks for code generation too (at least, that's what I was hoping for). It's in the repository: http://www.squeaksource.com/Soup (there's so much in there).

BTW: if anyone's interested: I've been working on a few bits of code that may become useful components when they're a bit more finished. I have a 'form generator' that generates edit, read-only and list views of a model object, decorated using pragmas (thanks to Ramon Leon for that idea). It validates using JQuery validation (now the standard in MS's ASP.Net MVC 3.0) or on the server (if JQuery fails - no Javascript or whatever). And I've ported and extended Sean Mallory's v. good MongoDB implementation in Dolphin Smalltalk. I've added a custom deserialiser to it and the end to end performance on my system now seems very fast: ~180 reasonably complex and sized pages per second on one of my MacBook's 1.86GHz CoreDuo cores. This is around *twice* the performance I was able to get from a parallel coded version of my app running in MS's MVC3 and SQL Server environment. I've also added a Smalltalk -> Mongo query translator by hooking into Squeak's parser. This allows you to write queries in a simple SQL like dialect, rather than the tortuous Mongo dictionary and array syntax (well, JSON really).    

T.

Ted Wrinch.

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> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:12:46 +0100
> From: Ted Wrinch <ted.wrinch at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Seaside] Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
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> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:02:16 +0100
> From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Seaside] canvas translator & new version of Seafox
> To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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> Hi,
> 
> I've been working on an html -> canvas translator∑.
> 
> 
> This is great Nick! I was thinking that I needed the very same app and was considering using Soup at some point to knock one up. Thanks very much for providing a useful piece of the web dev kit needed for Seaside.
> 
> T. 
> 
> Ted Wrinch 
> 
> On 9 Sep 2011, at 10:28, seaside-request at lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote:
> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:02:16 +0100
>> From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Seaside] canvas translator & new version of Seafox
>> To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CABsFVz8X-E08xUru3Sn9MaFTu--z6X3v2=8epbKFwLVq4V5KJw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've been working on an html -> canvas translator. Have a look at:
>> http://seafox.seasidehosting.st and click on "Canvas translator". Then in
>> another browser tab bring up your favourite web page (e.g.
>> http://www.seaside.st/) highlight a section and copy. Then return to the
>> "Canvas Translator" and paste into the text box below the default "Rendered
>> html" tab. Be amazed as the html is automatically translated into Seaside
>> canvas rendering methods. All the tabbed views are editable and you can
>> switch between them, allowing you to edit in one and see the translation in
>> another. For example try editing some raw html and flip to the canvas view
>> to see the translation to canvas methods.
>> 
>> The translator is based on the parser I created for the Seafox Firefox
>> plug-in. You can download a new version of the plug-in. Improvements
>> include:
>> 
>> * Code formatting better conforms to Seaside's coding conventions.
>> * The plug-in now creates an editable syntax highlighted translation (if the
>> translation isn't highlighted by again - there's an occasional weird
>> first-time only bug)
>> * There's a small test-suite for the parser
>> 
>> You can load the code into your Seaside image with:
>> 
>> Gofer it
>> squeaksource: 'Seafox';
>> package: 'ConfigurationOfSeafox';
>> load.
>> (ConfigurationOfSeafox project version: '0.2-baseline') load.
>> 
>> Note: I've tested mainly on the Mac in Safari. I'd be interested to hear
>> different platform browser combinations work.
>> 
>> Nick
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> From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
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> Hi Ted,
> 
> This is great Nick!
>> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
>> I was thinking that I needed the very same app and was considering using
>> Soup at some point to knock one up.
>> 
> 
> What is Soup?
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> Nick
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> From: "Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs" <boris at deepcovelabs.com>
> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
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> 1. A liquid dish, typically made by boiling meat, fish, or vegetables, etc., in stock or water. 
> 2. A substance or mixture perceived to resemble soup in appearance or consistency. 
> 
> /sorry
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> On 2011-09-09, at 8:16, "Nick Ager" <nick.ager at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> This is great Nick!
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> I was thinking that I needed the very same app and was considering using Soup at some point to knock one up.
>> 
>> What is Soup?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
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> From: Ted Wrinch <ted.wrinch at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Seaside] Fwd: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
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> Further thoughts occur. This could help ease the acceptance of Seaside in some commercial environments as it should make it easier to add html from designers' files into Seaside html code. In the absence of a tool like this it might appear that template file technologies, like ASP.Net and RoR, provide a much more natural way to do this. 
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> T.
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>> From: Ted Wrinch <ted.wrinch at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: Re: seaside Digest, Vol 105, Issue 11
>> Date: 9 September 2011 13:12:46 GMT+01:00
>> To: seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:02:16 +0100
>> From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Seaside] canvas translator & new version of Seafox
>> To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<CABsFVz8X-E08xUru3Sn9MaFTu--z6X3v2=8epbKFwLVq4V5KJw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've been working on an html -> canvas translator∑.
>> 
>> 
>> This is great Nick! I was thinking that I needed the very same app and was considering using Soup at some point to knock one up. Thanks very much for providing a useful piece of the web dev kit needed for Seaside.
>> 
>> T. 
>> 
>> Ted Wrinch 
>> 
>> On 9 Sep 2011, at 10:28, seaside-request at lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 07:02:16 +0100
>>> From: Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Seaside] canvas translator & new version of Seafox
>>> To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 	<CABsFVz8X-E08xUru3Sn9MaFTu--z6X3v2=8epbKFwLVq4V5KJw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've been working on an html -> canvas translator. Have a look at:
>>> http://seafox.seasidehosting.st and click on "Canvas translator". Then in
>>> another browser tab bring up your favourite web page (e.g.
>>> http://www.seaside.st/) highlight a section and copy. Then return to the
>>> "Canvas Translator" and paste into the text box below the default "Rendered
>>> html" tab. Be amazed as the html is automatically translated into Seaside
>>> canvas rendering methods. All the tabbed views are editable and you can
>>> switch between them, allowing you to edit in one and see the translation in
>>> another. For example try editing some raw html and flip to the canvas view
>>> to see the translation to canvas methods.
>>> 
>>> The translator is based on the parser I created for the Seafox Firefox
>>> plug-in. You can download a new version of the plug-in. Improvements
>>> include:
>>> 
>>> * Code formatting better conforms to Seaside's coding conventions.
>>> * The plug-in now creates an editable syntax highlighted translation (if the
>>> translation isn't highlighted by again - there's an occasional weird
>>> first-time only bug)
>>> * There's a small test-suite for the parser
>>> 
>>> You can load the code into your Seaside image with:
>>> 
>>> Gofer it
>>> squeaksource: 'Seafox';
>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfSeafox';
>>> load.
>>> (ConfigurationOfSeafox project version: '0.2-baseline') load.
>>> 
>>> Note: I've tested mainly on the Mac in Safari. I'd be interested to hear
>>> different platform browser combinations work.
>>> 
>>> Nick
>> 
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