Fwd: [Setools] What we have yet

[Alexandre Bergel]

Hans, please, set the mailing list as "reply to the mailing list"  
instead of "reply to the author" :-)

It will be more convenient for everybody.

Cheers,
Alexandre


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> Von: "Klaus D. Witzel" <klaus.witzel at cobss.com>
> Datum: June 25, 2006 1:38:57 PM GMT+01:00
> An: "Alexandre Bergel" <Alexandre.Bergel at cs.tcd.ie>
> Betreff: Re: [Setools] What we have yet
>
> Hi Hans & all,
>
> I'm interested in better (not necessarily faster) prototyping, in  
> the sense of drafting new or refining existing software at the  
> draft level, with full support of a running+reflexive system (and  
> of DNU, of course :)
>
> I also want to see diff's of a draft against what is already  
> implemented, in a nice GUI. A good draft is > 20 pages and is  
> impossible to review together with the customer (user) by using  
> system / OB / etc browser alone.
>
> And as already was posted in the "Better write a test or a comment  
> for a given method?" thread in squeak-dev, I'd like to see better  
> support for tests (don't care on the syntax level). Examples: test  
> 1 is related to test 2 by this and that; a method is no longer  
> accepted if a test fails; etc.
>
> The next item gets more visionary: what is a software author  
> without the ability to release her/his work on more than one  
> platform, more than one OS vendor, more than one HW vendor. I'd  
> like to see: one source+some annotations = more platforms. Compare  
> that to, for example, a port of Squeak to a new platform: the  
> "average" software author cannot do (nor afford) such a port by any  
> means.
>
> /Klaus
>
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:36:36 +0200, Alexandre Bergel  
> <Alexandre.Bergel at cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans and others!
>>
>> This list is a very good initiative.
>> I am interested in improving Omnibrowser. I hope it can become the  
>> default Squeak browser. I produced some changeset that enhance OB  
>> in two different ways:
>> 	- Comments are displayed below the definition of a class whenever  
>> I click on one.
>> 	- The list of methods are displayed whenever a class is selected.
>>
>> I believe this two improvements are important. With this two  
>> improvements, I do not use the classical browser anymore.
>>
>> Roel has been working on improving OB with a Package/Hierarchy  
>> button. This idea come from in Visualworks.
>>
>> Is Colin part to this mailing list ? If not, maybe you should  
>> invite him :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>> NB: Hans, could you set the mailing list has "replying to the  
>> list" instead of "replying to the author" ?
>>
>>
>> Am Jun 25, 2006 um 10:27 AM schrieb Hans N Beck:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> for the beginning, I would collect, which tools there are  
>>> already  for Squeak and/or  using Squeak related to Software  
>>> Engineering.
>>>
>>> As far as I remember, we have
>>>
>>> - of course the browsers: (Star-, Omni- , .....?)
>>> - Syntax highlighting
>>> - Monticello -> Versioning
>>> - Refactoring
>>> - ....
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Hans
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Setools mailing list
>>> Setools at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/setools
>>
>
>
>

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