> ...the spoon vm is a bit different isn't it? No, not in any way that would affect debugging. It has a dispatch loop and primitives that support proxies, and a second garbage collection mode for collecting methods that haven't been run recently. -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)